should I just quit?

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  1. Kenz501

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    Because if you feel like you lack competence, you are going to shut yourself off. If you have a script to help you at least appear competent, you'll be more open.
     
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    I may need a teaching life coach...
     
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    So you chose to teach what you view as a harder subject to teach because......??????
     
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    You mean you need a life coach so that you can communicate better and get organized, but you missed one of the points - a life coach can't help with the depression.
     
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    It was easier to get a degree in it, and I didn't really find out how difficult it was to teach ELA until I started trying to teach ELA. For me, grammar, vocabulary, and sentence structure are much easier to teach than reading, because I know what to focus on.
     
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    It might be different for lesser taught languages; I don't know.
     
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    For the record, the facepalm this caused hurt.
     
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    If that is true, then you have been making flawed judgments for a very long time. How did you get passing grades in this stuff in college?
     
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    If you don't think that grammar is complex, I feel like perhaps you don't actually understand grammar all that deeply.

    And, I mean, you know that those ESL and foreign language teachers aren't just teaching grammar, right? They're teaching reading and writing skills, just like the English teacher is teaching, except that they are teaching non-native speakers how to read and write in a language that is unfamiliar to them (the students).
     
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    It might be different at the advanced levels. I'm talking about little lessons for kids at the youth center and ESL to refugees through a private organization. You could probably consider it more tutoring than teaching. I'm really a better tutor than teacher, I think, because all a tutor has to do is find the problems the kid has learning material that has already been selected by a teacher.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure you don't know. I suspect that you're fairly ignorant about a lot of what happens in the world of education, based on your posts here. Par for the course.
     
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    Sorry if I'm not really understanding the question. The stuff in college was straight-forward, but it was just content knowledge, literary analysis, papers, theories, tests, etc., no real world application, except to a limited degree during student teaching.
     
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    So you decided that since you are only educated/qualified to be a tutor, you should be the teacher?

    Someone had to notice your deficits.
     
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    Okay, as someone who has barely taught you do not get to speak about the ease of other subjects.

    I teach mathematics and work VERY hard in my day to day. I use manipulatives like partitioned cross sections to model Riemann sums, I use GeoGebra, Kahoot, and a myriad of other interactive software to make engaging lessons, I have my students do project-based learning and problem-based learning exercises, I have them use graphing calculators to do games and simulations in AP Statistics, I have them conduct surveys for statistics projects, as well as use klinometers to measure angles and estimate heights of buildings and trees and such, etc.

    A lot of planning went into my lessons and I strive to include videos and games to make learning mathematics fun. It is very hard work, so please don’t stereotype us math teachers as having easier jobs. I’d like to see you teach all of my math courses (Financial Math, Advanced Pre-Algebra, Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, Pre-Calculus, AP Calculus AB/BC, and AP Statistics). I’d like to see you come up with mathematics proofs on the fly for every theorem, corollary, lemma, and formula. Id like to see you write computer programs to run repeated trials and collect data. I’d like to see you deal with students with several different brands of calculators and having to learn how to work with each and spot students’ mistakes. I’d like to see you get students who are below grade level to understand complex mathematics.

    Just try it and see how easy it is.
     
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    I have a teaching license, just little experience or good training.
     
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    If no one ever noticed that you can't, in reality, teach, then I feel for Texas. Your colleagues didn't sign up to teach a college graduate, and it isn't in their job description.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Wow. Impressive, but did your own teachers use an overhead projector, pages from the textbook, and internet videos? Did they tell you to just "search online and see what you find." If so, you probably understand, because you had to look for all of those resources and really dig to figure out what would work and how to go beyond that. I'm still trying to learn how to add to the methods that were used to teach me---mainly power point, online videos, and lectures, and, yes, it does seem nearly impossible to get up to the level of the more experienced teachers on my hall without help, and it doesn't help that teachers who are younger than me are somehow able to do more with what they have.
     
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    And still you have missed the point - your colleagues should be able to assume that you are at a certain level of proficiency. They have their hands full teaching their classes of MS students. Whether you want to hear it or not, you should have come with some skills or been able to pick them up in a reasonable time.
     
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