should I just quit?

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  1. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

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    I believe the suggestion you sue should be taken tongue in cheek. You are not the only student who has graduated a program to discover that the field isnt really a fit. You can continue to blame your university, your colleagues, the lack of a highly scripted step by step curriculum , but the reality is you need to do some serious introspection. You may want to teach, but its really not about what you want. Its about the students and it seems you are seriously incapable of delivery quality instruction in a way that reaches students. ‘Book smarts’in college doesnt always translate to good teaching.
     
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    Sorry, but it is unacceptable that I cannot get a good job that I can actually do with a master's degree in my field. What is my degree worth, then? I took out student loans to help me pay for it and the time I wasn't working pursuing it. That's a lot of money for a degree that is expected to help me earn a living.

    It's "about the kids" in the sense that they need a quality education, but it's also about the teachers to an extent, because we have to have the proper training to do our jobs. It's not "about the kids" exclusively; we are all contributors. The teachers teach; the kids learn.

    It would also be nice if there were free public education beyond high school...
     
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    These posts need to just stop. I checked the morning and the pages have doubled since then. I can’t actually go back and read any of it.
     
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    Here’s an idea: Print out the yearly standards that you have to cover and organize them by chapter. Then, plan your lessons around what you have to cover for each unit. For example, in one chapter in geometry, I have to teach: conditional statements, inductive reasoning, deductive reasoning, biconditional statements, algebraic proofs, and geometric proofs. So since I know I have to teach those six concepts, I reserve at least one day for each concept and then I add in (measurable) objectives, anticipatory sets, lesson of the day, guided practice, assessments, homework, materials used, and accommodations. Having a blank template really helps! Just insert a rectangular grid in Microsoft Word and fill it in.
     
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    No college education program teaches the things you believe you should have been taught. It is just not feasible to have a scripted plan for every possible lesson for every standard in every situation and a scripted conversation for every possible interaction a teacher may have with students, other teachers, admin, and parents prepared and handed to you to whip out when you don’t know what to do next. Part of being a teacher is being able to be flexible and to think on your feet. You have to be able to look at your students and say to your self I am losing them and instantly come up with something to grab their attention again. It doesn’t always have to be perfect but teaching isn’t something that can be boiled down to a formula or script that will stay the same from day to day.
     
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    czacza Multitudinous

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    The kids learn BECAUSE of good teaching. It is all about the learners. Have you learned anything in this thtead or any of your othet threads? .
     
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    OP must be aware that she spends an inordinate number of hours on her computer, day in and day out, often starting new threads before anyone responded to the last couple of threads. I do know people who are on the spectrum with OCD, etc,. and on their best day they wouldn't be able to write in circles like this poster. If OP is real, their need for help exceeds anything any of us can give. If an elaborate ruse, this person must sit and think up convoluted plot twists all day.

    I find it telling that OP states:
    I do think I have a better idea of what I need to do to be successful, but I'm still very upset at myself for not being as good at this job as my coworkers. I also feel like I'm in danger of being ignored or mistreated if I continue this argument, so I guess I'm just going to maybe take these concerns to a therapist or another forum where these kinds of complaints are understood.

    I take that to mean that we are no fun anymore.
     
  8. Kenz501

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    Someone accused me of trolling. If I was, it wasn't intentional. I'm just frustrated. The world doesn't make sense right now. Things are better, but it seems like they are about to get worse because I'm somehow defective, as I'm struggling to do this job properly and I'm just waiting for the next holiday break to escape the stress and frustration. I also have other issues that aren't related to teaching but the stress of this job isn't exactly helping.

    I don't really hate kids, but after having to put up with mean little middle students as an adult, I can say with confidence that I sometimes really hate their behavior. Plus, some of the kids here have pleasant dispositions and absolutely adore learning. I'm upset I can't do anything special for them, and I'm a little concerned they won't continue to be excited about my class if I can't prove myself.

    Things are better, though. I have a boss who supports her teachers' decisions, and I'm getting a little more comfortable writing kids up and assigning detentions. I'm getting a little more confident about taking control, although I think the kids try to play mind games with me by claiming they didn't do anything when they clearly did. Whatever. I guess it wouldn't bother me if I didn't see it all as my personal failure. I mean, they've demonstrated that they can sit and work quietly without anyone at all in the room. I'm beginning to feel like they hate me, and that's a poor reflection upon me, as this is a good school in a safe neighborhood.

    All of this negativity isn't good for me to dwell on, though, so I should probably go elsewhere and vent there and maybe come back here when I have more specific questions and am not feeling upset.
     
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    With all of those supports, I wish you well, still hoping that you will get some of the outside help that you seem to desire and need.
     
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