Shame on you Chicago!

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  1. chebrutta

    chebrutta Enthusiast

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    Holy crap, TG and Molly. I had no idea about all of the other stuff going on. Too bad the media isn't reporting it. Thanks for the link.

    (Also, maybe Chicago's CTU should travel south. We only get 3.9 hours planning per week!)
     
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    I completely support the CTU. I think I have fairly similar (if not worse) teaching conditions, but NC is a right to work state. Unions are illegal.
    I wish whatever the CTU accomplishes could somehow trickle down to me. I know it won't, but one can dream...
     
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    Though I'm quite sure this is a troll I actually agree. The ability to strike without fear of any actual recourse on the part of the employer is a tyranny of the majority. Teachers can strike without any fear of a lockout in return - how is that fair? The Chicago teachers will get their way. More new teachers will get laid off. The state's bond rating will get cut even further. Congrats.

    And all under a very liberal mayor.
     
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    giraffe and chebrutta, maybe it can trickle down. I think it's possible - but it's going to take work.

    In fact, I think we need to launch a thread about this.
     
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    Rockguykevin, have you read the document for which molly posted the link?
     
  7. mrachelle87

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    My understanding is that this was posted in all the media outlets ten days before it happened. Also a large number of schools were open being "manned" by nonteachers so that children could have a place to stay and to have breakfast and lunch.
     
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    Shame on your sweeping generalization.
     
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    Per CNN, CTU already sacrificed some pay issues to ensure teachers could be rehired.

    Also, teachers aren't getting paid while on strike, correct? How many can afford that for long?

    This is the first strike in TWENTY-FIVE years--hardly an everyday occurrence. These are real issues being discussed, and CPS had lots of time to discuss them.
     
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    Mrs: I notice you have listed yourself as special education.

    What will you do when your job is on the line because your worth as a teacher depends on how many of your students, regardless of ability, can pass the mandated exams with a fairly arbitrarily decided score?

    Is it fair for teachers at a low SES school, many ESL students, homeless students, etc to be evaluated as less effective teachers than the teachers 5 miles away in a ritzy little suburb? This is the case in my district. We have schools with 99% college bound and others where we struggle to get kids in the doors each day. My evaluations now depend on a kid deciding to show up for their state test.

    This is an at will state; we have no recourse.
     
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    I'm a raging conservative on most issues. I support the strike 100%. If I were anywhere near Chicago, I'd be out there on those picket lines with them, supporting their causes. TG has said everything I would say, so I won't repeat her.
     
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    Damned liberals, ruining it for all of us.................:rolleyes:
     
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    I'm thinking this might be a troll. Since they only have 8 posts.
     
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    Okay. Now I'm in I guess. Even if it is a troll.

    We were out picketing from 6:30 AM Till 6:00 PM, so it was a long day. We're doing it again tomorrow. So I might be a bit short and sweet.
     
  15. Rabbitt

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    Shame on you!

    They are standing for their students, America's public schools, and families.

    TROLL? :mad:
     
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