Running into problems with reciprocity in NY

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  1. Rebecca Corvino

    Rebecca Corvino New Member

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    I have my middle childhood education degree from Ohio. My university required we pick two concentrations. I chose ELA and Social Studies. I took 15 credit hours in each.

    Fast forward. I’ve been teaching for four years in Ohio and Washington D.C. I recently moved to NY and have been working on getting my license through reciprocity.

    NY state claims that my university degree is not “comprable” to a NY state institution therefore I do not meet the requirements for licensure. When I call to speak with them, I get a different “solution” each time (“change your application to a different pathway”...go earn more English credits”...then “no...you can’t get credits elsewhere just to piece together what you need. You need a new degree.” There is no way I am going to get a new, full undergraduate degree in education when I already have that.

    Has anyone run into problems like this with New York State? What can I do? I feel like I’m hitting the ceiling and can’t achieve what I need :(
     
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  3. Leaborb192

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    Again... I keep saying that NYS really doesn't "want'' outsiders and makes it difficult to get in. NY teacher - candidates struggle to get their licenses here, so of course they're going to make it difficult for non New Yorkers. We like to continue to tout being a "gold standard'' even though we have a "serious teaching shortage.'' :roll:

    First of all: what certification in Ohio do you hold and what is the comparable NY cert that you're trying to get? I'll need as much background as you can give me regarding your education and certification in Ohio, including tests, to help you.

    Here's the reciprocity info: http://www.highered.nysed.gov/tcert/certificate/levelcerto.html

    Here's some info about out of state candidates: http://www.highered.nysed.gov/tcert/certificate/teachrecotherendorsement.html#ClassroomEndorse

    NYS Cert Requirements: http://eservices.nysed.gov/teach/certhelp/CertRequirementHelp.do
     
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    Thanks for your reply! I have my Ohio license in Middle Childhood Education 5-9, with concentrations in English Language Arts and Social Studies. It seems that the problem isn’t my license, it is that New York will not accept my undergraduate degree because of a lack of English credit hours. My undergraduate degree is in a Bachelors of Science in Education (Middle Childhood Education with concentrations in English Language Arts and Social Studies, with a certificate in Urban Teaching). I am trying to get a NY state license in Middle Childhood Education (5-9) in English Language Arts.

    I have taken all of the required workshops. I have submitted my transcript. I have submitted my Ohio teaching license. I have completed and passed my middle school English edTPA. I have passed the required exams, including the EAS and the Middle Childhood - English content area test.
     
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    Ok so I think you have a few options as to what you could do:
    The problem is not necessarily with your degree itself, but rather that you seem to be missing the required 30 credits of content. It'll probably end up with you having to take some courses in ELA to beef up your transcript and get you to the required number. You said you took 15 each, well you could do various courses to get up to the required number. They can either be undergraduate or graduate courses from any institution. And NY has hundreds of them: we love our SUNY schools, community colleges and private schools here! Wherever you live you probably have several in the area or within a stone's throw.
    You can also contact NYSUT, the union, and ask them questions regarding what you need to do even if you don't have a job or are part of it. Trust me they walked me through getting professional certification so now I only have one year of teaching I need to get. They were very helpful. But I suggest getting it in writing!!!


    NYSUT: http://elt.nysut.org/certification

    You could also reach out to your local district's BOCES and work with them to get you what you need. I believe they can also grant licenses too. So check that out as an option.

    --Also, I'm assuming you have a TEACH account, correct? If not, get create one and apply for the license (yes it will cost you some money) but if it's denied, you'll get a breakdown of exactly why and what you'll need to be able to get it.
    For example: here's mine as I applied for an additional Spanish 7-12 license. It tells me what I'm missing so I know what I'll need. This will give you a definite answer.
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    1. Do Individual Pathway:
    • Pathway: Individual Evaluation THIS is your best bet, because they really just audit your transcript and see if you have all of the required courses. This is probably where your main problem is. The reason you are getting conflicting results is because we have so many licenses and pathways, or avenues to get the licenses. Most people enroll in an education program, complete the program and are recommended for certification. Other people -- or if you want additional certs -- it can be trickier.
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    I know it's a lot, but I hope it helps. @Rebecca Corvino
    :)
     
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    Let me preface by confirming our schools in the Tri-state area are better than Ohio.

    Personally I’d take Leaborb’s advice because they’re from an even worse state as far as academics are concerned. Plus there’s so much information there, I think Leaborb should start a side gig getting people certified in NY and place those who can’t in positions in AZ.
     
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    I'd probably make more money doing that. If I ever do start a side gig, it would be independent tutoring and then amass enough students to start my own school. That's my dream.
    :)
     
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    I don't know if this would help but there are certification specialists (I think that's what they are called) who work at SUNY schools who might be able to help. Where do you live in NY? If you can locate a SUNY school you might be able to contact them and see if they can tell you what to do. I didn't even go to a SUNY school and someone from there helped me out (just through email)!
     

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