Proposal to arm teachers

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  1. ChildWhisperer

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    Actually yes! There are news stories about crimes being prevented because someone was able to stop the "bad guy" with their own gun
     
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    yes, there are plenty of stories where good guys with guns stopped bad guys. My father carries and he has stopped two crimes (but not active shooters) by carrying. My BIL stopped a sexual assault where the victim was being subdued with a gun. My coworker stopped a home invasion by killing the man. Found out later that the man had raped two women and murdered a man during previous home invasions. You can find all kinds of cases where active shooters were stopped by armed civilians.
     
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    Or from the north side of the border. I can't even imagine this.
     
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    So I was checking this thread when my husband told me he bought a new gun. Argh.
     
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    I am actually pro-gun ownership and go to the range for fun. But I wouldn't support guns held by teachers in schools because of how many things could go wrong with it. There are enough accidents with kids getting access to guns in private homes and hurting someone or themselves with it. This is providing one gun per 30 kids with very sticky hands and only one adult to supervise all of them. Accidents WILL happen.

    As part of getting my own concealed-carry license (I don't even own a gun but it was an interesting way for me to spend an afternoon one day) I had to learn a lot about gun laws in my state. Apparently it's completely legal for parents and other adults who visit the campus to concealed or open carry, but it is illegal for teachers to carry.
     
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    I'd be uncomfortable with teachers carrying guns at school.

    If needed, I'd rather see an armed security guard placed at each campus.
     
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    decided it wasn't worth sharing!
     
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    This has been talked about in my area. My teammate came from a district that was talking about arming every single teacher, which I think is completely absurd and I frankly can't see how anyone could get behind that. I don't like guns and would not feel safe in a building that had armed teachers. I would worry about students getting access to the guns and I would worry about a teacher having a mental breakdown (which unfortunately I think is not that far fetched given how stressful the profession has become) with easy access to a gun. I can say with absolutely certainty that if any policy like my teammate's old district was talking about ever came to fruition, I would quit immediately before even considering continuing to work at a school that required me to carry a gun.

    Another teammate said that she knew of an extremely rural district that wanted to have armed teachers because apparently the nearest "emergency services" of any kind (including police) was over 45 minutes away. That is the only scenario where I could possibly get behind schools even entertaining the idea of arming teachers.
     
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    Nope, nope and more nope. I don't really care how great a shot someone is, how "well trained" they are, unless they have been in life or death situations(police officers, soldiers) I do not know how someone will react when $%#@# goes down.

    I don't trust many of the people I work with to carry a gun.(Although, I do trust them to be fun to shoot with and be a fantastic shot on a range)

    Working so closely with young kids....so near a firearm....nope, not in favor of this.

    With that said I would not quit or leave the profession, I simply would not carry one.
     
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    Yes. I don't remember what state it was but an Assisstant principal had a weapon in his vehicle. He got out of the building, got his weapon, and prevented murders.

    I know of about eight people on my campus who have their concealed license and some, I believe, keep them in their vehicles with permission.

    I do wish they were allowed to carry on campus. I'm not at a level that I would feel comfortable getting a concealed license, but wouldn't hesitate if my ability was better.

    I wouldn't want to be required to carry a weapon, but I have no problem with people with the appropriate training and certifications to do so.
     
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    I remember the mass shooting at a community college, I think in Washinton, Umqua or something, a few years ago. Fox had a live interview with a witnesses or people on campus when it happened. They were asking if they thought it could have been prevented if students were allowed to carry concealed weapons. The man they were interviewing said, "oh, me and my friend had concealed weapons".

    I did not see Fox News ever replay the interview with that witness again.
     
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    As we are talking about research, I think we should look at the facts. In the United States there were over 33,500 gun deaths last year. In Japan there was a total of 6 deaths. That is right, 6 for the whole country, for the whole year. Japan has very strict gun control...something to think about.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure what a general gun control debate has to do with the original question of arming teachers.
     
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    Well isn't the point of arming teachers to protect themselves and students from gun attacks?
    Isn't the gun control debate about whether or not arming citizens actually makes one safer?
     
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    I think if you're arming teachers, you're participating in a form of control.

    Gun control debate is more about who gets to be armed rather than if people can be armed, at least outside the extremes.

    And now I'm making the thread even more political. Which was my original fear with this tangent.

    :oops:

    I shall go take a bath and read a romance novel now.
     
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    Huh? Everything you just said, sounds like a gun control debate?
     
  18. Backroads

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    I just don't think this thread should head into that area per forum rules.
     
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    Let's not debate other's views. Just state yours. Respect other's 2 cents by not adding disputes to it.

    Thanks!
     
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    Wow, so no conversation, just drive by posting?
     

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