Praxis 86 Social Studies Content Interp

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  1. soldier86

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    Hi, I had a couple questions about the Praxis scoring. Yesterday I took the Praxis II Social Studies Content and Interpretation test 086. There were 90 multiple choice questions and three short essay. The multiple choice account for 75% of the grade with the essay questions being 25%. I need a 153 to pass. Can anyone give me a general estimate as to what raw score percentage this comes out to? Does it equate to around a 60% or 70%? I am a little concerned I may have not passed. I knew a majority of the answers, made some educated guesses on a decent amount and completely guessed on around 8 multiple choice. I think I did decent on the essay questions. What concerns me is there was a high school history teacher at a private school taking the same test for the third time. So obviously this makes me nervous. I asked him what he used to study and he said " I was a history major". So I thought he meant he used history books. But then he said " I teach history". So I am assuming he didn’t study at all ? DO some people not study for these tests? Another guy taking it also had failed it before as well missing it by one point . If I don't pass this test I won't be able to teach this fall and will have to wait until next year due to the constraints of the program I am in. Has anyone taking this test before that can offer me some insight as to how they did ? Looking for a little reassurance here. Thank you.
     
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    I'll have to get to this later, but I will be back.
     
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    Bad News.

    Only someone who has taken the test can help you in any way. Since this is a really new test there are no score guidelines as of yet.

    The general rule of thumb on here is if you score 70% you will pass.
    I think the general rule should be more along the lines of 60%. Again variables passed on state and esp. NJ.


    The real numbers are usually lower then that.

    Example: Middle School Science Praxis (0439)

    MC Q: 62%
    Essay: 22%

    My score was 159.
    Median Score 158.

    I passed the test and passed for every state that requires the test except CT (requires 162).

    CAVET: Remember this does not translate to other tests and is only good for the 0439 tests.

    http://www.ets.org/s/praxis/pdf/uyps_1112.pdf
     
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    My apologies, soldier86: life happened.

    60% MIGHT be a passing percentage on a given day for a given Praxis II, but it makes no sense to state that categorically.

    For one thing, most multiple-choice question sets contain at least some questions that are "non-scoring": these are questions that are being field-tested for inclusion in future versions of the test. This means that if one gets them right, they don't help one's passing percentage - and if one gets a question like that right at the expense of skipping some "scoring" questions, one has lost some ground.

    For another, it's practically impossible to write two test questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty, let alone 22 or 42. The makers of teacher tests work around this fact by including, in the algorithms that convert raw scores to scaled scores, fudge factors that noodge one question up or another down in weight.

    The fact that a given history teacher has had to take this test three times could mean that it's extremely difficult, to be sure, but it could also mean either that this particular history teacher is not that well prepared, or that this particular history teacher believes he's not a very good test taker, or any of several variations on those themes.
     
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    Thanks for the responses. In the last couple weeks I have begun to feel much more confident about the test. I won't know my scores until the end of the week, but my "gut" tells me I passed; maybe not by much, but I really think I did pass. For those taking Socials Studies Content and Interpretation in the future, I will be more then willing to share my experience and my score. Next week I will be taking the Praxis 1. I have studied extensively for this test and I am much more confident I will pass with a high(er) score. :thanks:
     
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    Sounds promising, soldier86.

    Praxis I tests skills, not knowledge: any essays are real essays, but the object is not so much to write really excellently as it is to show you can state a thesis and keep to it, defend it in an organized fashion with some evidence, and show signs of a command of English grammar, mechanics, and vocabulary. In other words, channel your inner eleventh grader.
     
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    Well I paid the $30 go get my score for the Praxis II over the phone this morning. I needed a 153. I scored a 173. Needless to say I am happy!
     
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    Congratulations!
     
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    Much congrats.
     
  11. soldier86

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    Now that I have the official score report I thought it would be a good idea to break it down point by point so that those taking it in the future have a better idea.


    So as I mentioned my score was a 173 and the passing score in Arkansas is 153 for 0086 Social Studies Content and Interp.


    United States History 12/18
    World History 13/18
    Government/Civics/Political Science 14/18
    Economics 8/13
    Geography8/13
    Behavioral Sciences 8/10
    Short Content Essays 18/18


    total raw points earned 81. total points available 108
    81/108 = 75 percent. 173= 75 percent on this test. So logically thinking a passing score of 153 is around 55 percent.

    On a side note I took the Praxis PPST this morning. I scored 182 on the reading and 184 on math which are both passing scores. Now I am just waiting on the writing scores.
     
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    Ah. Do I infer correctly that you're generally happier with constructed-response questions than with multiple-choice ones?
     
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    Yes you could say that, although I am starting to second guess myself on the Praxis I writing. I know I signed a piece of paper saying I wouldn't reproduce the parts of the test so I'll generalize.

    My essay question showed an opinion and then asked me to write an essay staying to what degree I agree with that statement and to use real life examples and experiences. So I said I disagree with the statement and argued that the complete opposite could be said. I gave three reasons why I believe in my opinion using real examples and then closed it out with a conclusion. It was a quick five paragraph essay. But I keep second guessing myself. Should I have spent more time arguing against the statement instead of supporting my opinion? Also I know I can be very "wordy" at times (usually to my benifit as you can see by my short essay scores from the Praxis II). Do you think wordiness could hurt me?
     
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    Sounds to me like you did pretty much what you should have done. "Wordiness" (the term is relative, frankly) counts against the writer only when the writer goes off topic.

    Hugs, soldier86. Please go find something pleasant and constructive to do with your nervous energy, okay?
     
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    Well I passed all of my tests and will be submitting my application to the department of education this week. Now for the last little detail... finding a position and finding it fast. I had faxed an application and resume to a school district while at work the other night. Apparently it never went through and kicked back out. My boss saw it when he came in the next morning. Needless to say he wasn't happy to find out that I plan on leaving this job. He can't understand why I am not satisfied being a security guard and why I would want to teach where I'll have more responsibility less pay and more work (yes teachers in Arkansas start at a lower pay scale then a security guard) .... It really amazes me to hear someone else's version of success and accomplishment compared to my idea of success.:|
     
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    THe P1 Writing is really no big deal. String together some decent thoughts.

    Mine from years ago was something about computers making life better. I argued no from a business view point. However, my paragraph was, if not for those problems I would not have made lots of money.

    What I think they are looking for is decent writing. Does not matter what side you take. Take a side and defend the position with solid points backed up by evidentiary material. In other words a basic 5 para essay.
     
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    great!
     
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    One question that I have is,

    On the short answers, are they content-based, as in tell us what were the reasons behind the formation of the Bill of Rights...?
     
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    Welcome to A to Z, EJTexasBoy.

    Off the top of my head I'd say yes, but I don't recall whether 0086 has questions on pedagogy (and I don't know whether you'd consider that "content-based", either).

    The fastest way to find it is probably to Google "praxis 0086". (If you're not taking 0086, go to the Praxis Web site, http://www.ets.org/praxis; either you'll see a pulldown menu that lists all the tests, or you'll see a link for preparation for the test that will take you to the page with the pulldown menu.) Useful information about the test is at the beginning of the doc; do please read it. Sample questions are at the end of the doc; they don't represent the full scope of the content in the test, but they do show a couple of representative questions with a range of answers.
     
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    Thanks for your response.

    I believe I did well, I will probably pay the fee and find out the scores via phone in a couple of weeks.
     
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    Soldier, how did you study. I just received my score and I am so embarrassed! I used 'freezing blue 0086 website', google it, to study. I figured this would help surly since it covered the subjects area.Also, I did poor in the written responses. Like you said, it's hard to tell on this test since it is so new.
     

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