Police involvement when students assault teachers

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  1. catnfiddle

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    This happened today at the school where my parents taught and from where I graduated. Five teachers were injured and three were taken to the hospital, including the one who was taken out of the school unconscious. I'm angry and upset, but I have a feeling the administration will have no choice but to follow through with charges since the video is on YouTube.
     
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  2. AmyMyNamey

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    The one fight does not bother me as much as the fact that it happens all the time. This is indicative of inept administration. Someone needs to clean house and go in with the big guns to get this district under control.

    When these kids get cuffed and stuffed, and mommy has to pay all manner of fines and restitution, then they'll start to catch on. I've seen this behavior flourish under weak administration, and fade under strong administration. It can be handled.
     
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    Follow-up information:
    Police arrested the four students on a variety of charges, including assault and reckless endangerment. Three of the girls were charged as juveniles, while Amber Lewis, 18, was charged as an adult. Lewis is locked up in the Montgomery County jail in lieu of $10,000 bond. Two of the defendants are sisters.​
     
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  4. AmyMyNamey

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    THANK GOD!!!

    Many of us are in districts where unofficial policies have allowed discipline to all but vanish, where teachers are in daily fear for their personal safety and security.

    The question becomes: Was the situation handled because of public scrutiny, or was it handled in keeping with new policy and procedure—or, better yet, new administration?
     
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  6. AmyMyNamey

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    Yeah, of course....

    If I was the lady who got knocked out, I'd hire the best lawyer I could find and make an impression upon this district that would last a generation.
     
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    Were I to hazard a guess, I'd say the sweep-it-under-the-rug mentality does come from a sincere desire to help the kids. Bring up therapy and discussion options and such, add in more preventive measures. But certainly don't traumatize the kid by getting them in too much trouble because of course teachers and staff can be resilient for the sake of the kids.

    And next thing you to know the vision is very fuzzy on this issue until a bit of public scrutiny reveals things.
     
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    I disagree. I think the sweeping under the rug comes from protecting the district's image. From worrying about graduation rates. From fear of lawsuits and the blame game. Sensible people know that protecting children from their poor choices only encourages them to make more in the future. Then again, not everyone in education is sensible...
     
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    I have to disagree. With few exceptions, the administrators I have known are more interested in their own careers and pay checks than helping children. Most will do anything to hide the sort of violent behavior that happens every day but rarely breaks the local news.

    In the one story, a woman was knocked to the ground, unconscious. She could have easily been killed. "Traumatizing" violent delinquents is the last thing we should be worried about.

    I don't intend any disrespect, friend, but I think your perspective could broaden.
     
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  11. retiredpara

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    OK, so the same thing happened to me, or maybe you read about my actual case....who knows?
    At any rate, Worker's Comp is refusing to pay for any of my heart-attack related expenses saying my job was not dangerous enough, I can't prove that the assault caused the attack,etc, etc. ad nauseum.
    Go figure. I am still fighting that ruling.
    Our union and the school board are at an impasse over basically two issues, salaries and school safety that staff wants included in the contract language. School board won't "go there" over the safety language; too hard to manage safety so they won't put it in the contract. Incredible! What if it were kids that were assaulted and the parents decided to sue the district which I, as an employee, cannot do in my state?
     
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    [QUOTE="catnfiddle, since the video is on YouTube.[/QUOTE]

    Cat, could you post a link to that video, I would like see it.
    Thanks
     
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    retiredpara, there is no way that I would accept that ruling, and I am glad to hear that you are still fighting the ruling. I believe that victims have a voice, and who is to say your job wasn't dangerous enough? If you are a pedestrian who gets mowed down by someone evading the police in a stolen vehicle, at what point in time did your walk with the dog become "dangerous enough" to warrant a wrongful death suit? Your body may have had symptoms, unknown to you, that made you susceptible to the stress from the attack. Since none of us is certified as 100% defect free on any given day, how can you rule out what may or may not trigger something like a heart attack? I would take the medical records and a detailed account of events to whatever specialists are most likely to be able to put the sequence of events into perspective of how it affected your health. Maybe it wouldn't have affected me as it did you, maybe it would have. If we all knew what tomorrow would bring, there would be a lot more lottery winners!
     
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    The police have actually told us to call them. Nothing can actually been done to them until they are 10. It’s not all special needs. It’s kids with no boundaries and that are angry. I am constantly worried other students will get hurt. I just don’t inderstand why one child can terrorize the entire class. Kids are scared to come to school. Very sad!
     
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    I was assaulted by a student at the end of September this year. I was hurt, but I chose to not see a doctor and I chose to not report it to the police. I honestly believe that my Administration would have my back. Over the next several days the student continually threatened me. Two of her friends of threatened to shoot me. When I went to admin about the fact that I now felt terribly unsafe, they did not support me. That is one admin told me it was my fault I got assaulted the first time because I did not run away fast enough. I was awaiting hip surgery and was unable to run. I quit. I walked away. I honestly believe I should have called the police that night when nothing happened to the student. And I should have gone immediately to a walk-in clinic to get my shoulder looked at because I couldn't move it properly for days. If you get assaulted by a student and you're not immediately and fully backed up by Administration, protect yourself and contact the police. I wouldn't have had to walk away from my job if I had done so. I believe I would have been able to keep my job, and felt safe at the school, if I had medical reports showing my injury and police reports showing that I was afraid of this student. It's not like there wasn't a background she has threatened to harm me three other occasions and nothing had been done. I said protect yourselves and contact the police.

    Does it matter if the students special needs, no. I am certified to teach emotional impairments as well, and I have called the police on a student before. I still do not doubt that I made the correct decision that day. He was about ready to throw a computer at my head. The situation had fallen out of control, because the principle of that school brought in security guards who started screaming at the student and he could not turn off his anger response.
     
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    I'm relieved to see I'm not alone in this situation.
     
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