Parents who dread school breaks

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  1. futuremathsprof

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    She lives in my neighborhood... I don’t know how as the homes are fairly expensive. She probably qualifies for the same program that YTG’s community members do.
     
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    So the IRS would only allow this for a single destitute family. I see, I see.
     
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    As you said earlier, show me the studies that indicate this.
     
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    And that's exactly what they do!
     
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    You know, I think I've read about some teachers excited the moment kids leave, take all possible days off...hmm, and some of them weren't doing any teaching, just giving assignments, having kids learn on computers, etc..., neglecting the kids.

    Must be exactly what those kind of teachers do! Man, so you must be a neglectful teacher, too...

    ( /sarcasm -- but hopefully you see how labeling millions of people by one thing like that doesn't make sense.)
     
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    I agree, we shouldn’t label people. BUT, I’m specifically talking about parents who we know, and in YTG’s case, have empirical data on to show they are deadbeats. I’m ONLY talking about those individuals.

    It’s not okay that there are parents out there that take advantage of the system and get everything for free. It’s not okay that they expect other people to take care of their children for them. We are NOT the parents here and that duty should fall on them and them alone.
     
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    You're taking this thread/forum waaaay too seriously. Take a deep breath, breathe.............


    And countdown to Xmas!
     
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    Ah. I get it. You were joking around about all you've said. Makes more sense ;)
    (I was just having a discussion around a topic that was coming up...not taking it any more seriously/less seriously than you. But that's a nice way to try to avoid the issue when you're unsure of how to respond!)
     
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    When it dawns on you that this is an anonymous board and that no one knows anyone, you're going to feel better.
     
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    I'm feeling fine, thank you :) .

    Enjoy your "mental health" days and winter break. :)
     
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    You guys and gals, lol! Come on, we’re all in this together.

    I do enjoy these vigorous debates that we have. They really challenge your thinking and I have no hard feelings against any of you, even those who I have a disagreement with.
     
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    Where in this thread did I ask you to show me the studies that indicate this?
     
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    I sincerely apologize and retract my previous statement. It was mathmagic who said this. Please excuse me.
     
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    Everyone deserves some compassion and empathy, even parents who can’t or choose not to take care of their children. We shouldn’t judge. We just don’t know what they’ve been through in their lives. Maybe they have mental issues, medical issues, cultural issues, addiction issues, maybe they’ve never been in a stable family home growing up and don’t know how to provide one, maybe they truly believe that their kids are better off with the ‘professionals’, there’s so many factors. For many of these parents, they are part of a vicious cycle of poverty and/or crime and/or lack of education and/or lack of positive role models etc. that’s been going on for a couple of generations before them and they haven’t been able to break out of it. In a way, they are victims themselves. If we have been brought up in stable homes so we can have an education and stable jobs, lucky us. If we haven’t been brought up in stable homes and have been able to break out of a vicious cycle, then good on us. Either way, we should have compassion, even if sometimes, it truly is not deserved.
    It’s fine to rant and get things off ones chest in an anonymous forum, sometimes it’s what people need to do, so that in real life we can keep these views to ourselves.
     
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    The other week I totally forgot my kid had a short day. It was one of the unusual ones. Yes, technically they had sent home a calendar of the unusual short days... I think I remember roughly half an hour after school got out. Fortunately, they had already called Dad, who happened to have decided to leave his work early and was on his way home.
     
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    A couple of years ago, I had a student with a great family. Oh, I suppose you could dig through their personal lives and home (they were on the poorer side of things, the family was split). But the father signed Junior up for the afterschool program for the sole purpose of having kids to hang out with as their neighborhood had no one close to his age. He didn't hang out there unitl the final hours, but he did spend an hour or so hanging out with kids and Family Members could put in a little extra time at work or what have you.
     
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    One more thought on this thread I binge-read... I think this is indeed a dangerous rant. Now, I generally roll my eyes at speeches of privilege, but I think a lot of the naysaying on this thread came from privilege, certain teachers who value money more than people and therefore condemn anyone who isn't in their social standing.

    Yes, I am very well of those parents who are completely not cut out for the parenting game. Oh, well That's a bigger problem than our paygrade, but it still would behoove us to just let it go.
     
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    Where can I find some of these deadbeat parents to replace the helicopter parents I deal with on a daily basis?
     
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    I rant sometimes, but in the end, I focus on how best to support the kid and find ways to make connections with parents and families such that that relationship is best for the child. No name calling or labeling (doesn't help the kid at all, doesn't help me at all), just productive work forwards...
     
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    Haha!
     
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