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  1. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

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    Used to be in my district that tenured had one scheduled observation per year, non tenured had 3-4. Our state is now requiring new eval systems. Some have signed on to Marzano, Danielson, etc. we are doing Marshall...ten ten-minute observations, drop in, per teacher. I've been observed twice already...so ar, so good...gotta say, I do think unannounced minis paint a more realistic 'snapshot' of a classroom and teacher practices than a once a year dog and pony show...that plus my P does a non-observation swing thru most as anyway so it's comfortable, I feel like he understands who I am as a teacher and that my observations won't be 'gotcha' situations. 8 more to go...:whistle:

    Any changes in observations/eval for you?
     
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  3. dgpiaffeteach

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    We only have one formal observation per evaluation. We now have two walk throughs per evaluation. This means he sees us at least six times. It used to be two formal observations for a total of four.
     
  4. agdamity

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    We switched to the Danielson model. Our P is in our rooms daily anyway, so the only real thing that is changing is more paperwork.
     
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    I kind of prefer the old way.

    We have four 10 minute informals throughout the year, plus one formal. I don't think my problem is the observation system, per se, but rather the way it's implemented in my county (they say it isn't a gotcha but it seriously feels like one sometimes).

    Even though it used to be only one observation per year, my Admin used to just drop in every now and again. No written feedback. No freaking out if you were doing everything on Marzano perfectly. I liked it a lot more when they would just come by to watch and engage in the class. I felt like they were more looking to see what you were and how you were growing as a teacher rather than just rating things on a list.
     
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    Once we have our continuous contracts, we don't have any more observations. My administration walks through our rooms almost daily though.
     
  7. MissJill

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    We are using the Danielson model in my district. Our P has agreed to "announce" all of our observations this year. We are using oncoursesystems.com for our pre and post conference questions. PAIN in the butt! Just when I thought I was good (I was tenured this September) this happens in NJ. UGH.

    How about those SGO's? That may even be a bigger pain in the butt! And then the SGP's. That's horrible to even fathom. I have made very good progress with my students in the past, but it's hard to have that horrible test tied to you.
     
  8. Aliceacc

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    When I was department chair, I did unannounced observations. It gave me a better idea of what was going on, and it gave people less time to panic.

    At this point, I get observed once a year. My chair has already started getting them out of the way. But we're a department of 22 (I think) with one brand new teacher who will be observed a number of times. So he gets to me when he gets to me.

    I don't do anything special for observations, other than to make sure I'm not giving a test or a quiz. What he sees is what would have been going on had he not been in the room. If he ever forgot to warn me he was showing up, it would be fine with me.
     
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    Apparently, they've changed for us this year, but I wouldn't know. My VP came in to observe me today and I said flat out, "Today is not a good day to observe me, I'm sick as a dog." She smiled and responded it was okay, but when she heard me talk she frowned and said I sounded germy and she'd come another day. That was the last thing I needed to worry about today.
     
  10. gr3teacher

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    With our new evaluation process, evaluators can either do 3 unannounced drop-ins and one formal, 45 minute observation, or 6 drop-in observations.
     
  11. Linguist92021

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    I'll be observed twice this semester, and my P wants me to give her the dates. It sounded like it's not just me, it's every teacher, but I'm probably wrong.
    I prefer several unannounced visits, and maybe 1 or 2 scheduled visits. She does walk-throughs a lot, but they're very short.

    I feel that if all you get is 1 or 2 visits, the odss are against you. What if you have one off day (you're sick, the kids are just having an off day) and that visit means a lot? Having several unannounced visits are better, because they paint a clearer picture. You night have 1 off day, but the other 5-9 should good days should balance it out.
     
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    We still get one announced and one unannounced if we are on "full evaluation" which occurs every 3 years after getting tenure. When on "partial" eval, we may not be formally observed at all. However, my P does walk-throughs frequently.
     
  13. MrsC

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    Permanent, contract employees, who have more than three years, have a formal evaluation once during every 5 year cycle. Administration is in and out of classrooms frequently, so have a good sense of what is going on in classrooms. We also have frequent "walk-throughs" from a superintendent or the director of education. Because we are a brand-new school, there have been several walk-throughs already as it seems as though everyone wants to visit our beautiful new building.
     
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    We have walk throughs all the time, but this year I'll only be evaluated on one scheduled observation because I was highly effective last year. Teachers who were not have two observations a year.
     
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    Our walkthroughs are now largely unscored, although our evaluators note whether they've observed certain things or if an opportunity is missed. We also have a written and spoken dialogue afterward to keep track of things (I have my most recent one open for reference). We are formally observed and evaluated twice a year, the same as our SLO reports.
     
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    In the districts I've worked at, teachers have one walk through observation plus one formal observation every year for the first 3 years they are employed. After that, they get one formal observation once every 3 years.
     
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    3 YEARS?! I cannot imagine not being seen at least once a month by SOMEONE.
     
  18. mkbren88

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    We have adopted Marzano in my district so we have 6-8 observations- 1 formal announced, 1 formal unannounced, 1-2 informals and then 3-4 walkthroughs. It doesn't matter if you are new or have taught for 30 years, everyone is observed the same amount of time. New teachers and those who are struggling are observed more frequently.
     
  19. smalltowngal

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    cat~I know...In my old district, it didn't really matter because the principal always stopped by the rooms to see what was going on. I do knot some teachers though that haven't seen their principal in their rooms since they're last observation.
     
  20. Jem

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    I'll have three formal 1 hour observations this year. I had one last month for ELA, math is in Nov and then another will be in Feb. Once I am tenured, I can do a research project using my class instead of observations. Once I hit 10 years, I can go every three years without an evaluation or project. My principal is in my classroom a lot, though-she taught for me all afternoon today because she wanted me to build her some websites-so I try to always have work up, the kids know to be on their best behavior, ect. It's still heart-stopping, though, after my last few principals. Even though my last evaluation went really well, I'm always terrified. I'm like a dog that has been kicked and can't stop flinching...
     
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    :hugs: Jem. It's tough to bounce back from that, even though you know you're a good teacher.
     

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