"Negative Nelly" teachers

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  1. waterfall

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    I can see both sides. Pollyannas are just as annoying as negative Nellys, IMO. Having a safe place to vent and people who can relate is important. I think teachers also tend to easily fall into being martyrs...putting up with bad or unfair conditions because it's "for the kids" and then being accused of being "not dedicated" if they complain or advocate for themselves.

    On the other hand, it is important to see the positive too because that's what keeps you going! A few years ago I was close with two teachers who just hated our P with every fiber of their being. Anything she did, they would throw a fit about and gripe about nonstop. At my previous school, I worked for a truly awful P and this P was NOTHING like that. If this P was truly the worst they'd worked for, they must have had pretty charmed careers. They both ended up transferring to other schools in the district the next school year, and quickly found out that all of the "issues" weren't caused by the P they hated so much. I was friends with them when I first started at the school, but by the time it was their last year there (4 years later) I wasn't sad when they announced they were transferring.
     
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    I'm probably that person. I've taken to just keeping my mouth closed 90% of the time so nothing bad comes out. :p The other 10% of the time, I force myself to deliberately say something nice and leave it at that. My one teammate has similar concerns to mine and we try to meet up just the two of us to get our venting out before we're in the presence of other people. Last year was REALLY BAD for a variety of reasons...we were determined this year to be "glass half full" people. Ironically, a sudden change in administration has made everyone else lose their minds. I'm already committed to positively though, so I'm just over here like BEST YEAR YET, GUYS. LIVING MY BEST LIFE. :whistle:
     
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  3. corunnermom

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    I have one on my team and though I am always kind to her and we work together, I choose not to eat lunch with her nor engage in conversations beyond what it necessary. I have to stay positive and though my kiddos are difficult, I believe in them! It's okay not to surround yourself with toxic people!
     
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    This quote supports my life-long contention, "Positive = Fantasyland."

    I've worked with colleagues that, even with regular brawls in the hallways, knives and guns being found being brought into the building, a majority of the students saying in response to receiving an assignment, "Yeah? I'd like to see you try to MAKE me do it!", kids thrilled with a "D" as "good enough," turning in grades where the student with the 40 Average gets the "A", (and on and on), STILL say, "Oh, it's not so bad here."

    If you have to pretend that everything is alright in order sleep at night or to drive your blood pressure down, then you're trapped in "Fantasyland."

    Blazer is dead-on: "Perhaps they are realists? Those sitting there pretending everything is rosy are the problem!"
     
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  5. readingrules12

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    Oh there is nothing wrong with stating the truth with a problem.."Hey, we are out of copy paper, the students don't have their supplies." etc. I am all for that type of honesty even if it is negative. What I am talking about is the constant whining, complaining, gossiping, bad-mouthing, etc. just to poison the air with no effort to tell those who really can do something about it. I am talking about the teacher lounge negativity where anyone who is not in the room is fair game. That I do not miss. I like being with colleagues who laugh and compliment each other. They also will let the principal know we have no copy paper, students are out of control in lunch room, and other problems. Reality...yes, but creating a negative atmosphere..no thank you.
     
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    My classroom neighbor is one of these...and I actually agree with her on 95% of the issues, but I just don't see the point of wasting time complaining about having too much work to do when complaining won't change a thing. We are all too busy, we are all stressed, etc, etc, so please don't waste even more of my time b*&^%ing about it...
     
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  7. Backroads

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    I see your point and don't disagree, but there's also a big different between being a realist and just being negative. There's little to reality about everything being negative.

    Oh, I like having a nice healing vent session every now and then, commiserating good-naturedly with others. But it's something that needs to be kept in check. Yes, every place and classroom has its negatives. But if you're constantly complaining, it's too much for you.
     
  8. TeacherNY

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    I hate to be a negative Nelly, but...
    Yesterday, at least 3 incidents occurred where people did not do their job properly or did not use common sense in terms of efficiency. I wanted to SCREAM at these people but in one instance I went and talked to someone calmly instead of putting the emphasis on the negative aspect. It went well! I think it's fine to complain about things but it's all on HOW you do it!!
     
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  9. Pi-R-Squared

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    UPDATE: Even though I still sit across from what I consider a negative-nelly male teacher during lunch, I've found the less I talk to him about anything, the better I feel about my work and my students. It just seems that he complains all the time, calls a particular grade of students stupid, and just rambles on and on about how those students don't accomplish much. He also tries to initiate small-talk and I hate small-talk. In fact, at our faculty table, the women sit on one side and the men on the other. I think if he didn't try to talk and start conversations, we men would just eat our food while the women eat and chat. And I'm perfectly fine with that.
     
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    Good thing that didn't happen here because the gossip would be endless from the school administration on down!
     

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