The only one who was mean and nasty was you. And my username was something I chose years ago when I joined the website. A name is not reflective of one's current station in life. It was just when I was getting started in my career. The point I was trying to make, which you seemed to have missed, is that math teachers should have to demonstrate they know *enough* to teach the material to their students. They should be proficient in the very least at it. The Praxis 5161 is the qualifier, similar to licensing exams for any career show you *actually* can apply what you have learned. There seems to be a common theme in this country where people complain about standardized tests -- which test minimal understanding at best -- and then the tests gets dumb downed or eliminated outright. Case in point, in the state of California, community colleges are thinking of getting rid of math placement exams and the algebra 2 requirement altogether because they are "too hard." And by the way, my initial compliment still stands. I am happy you have achieved success in your career. Really. I did not say you were a bad student or question your credentials. I merely stated that math teachers need to be held to a higher standard and they should be. However, your comment, "Just a bunch of meaningless examples on math," is very telling and speaks to your lack of understanding. And it's funny that you mentioned arrogance because your post was fraught with it.