Less Stressful/Easiest State?

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  1. Alyssa20

    Alyssa20 Rookie

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    Hello,
    I live in California and am in the MSCP at a CSU. Unfortunately, I enrolled in the program before I passed the CSETS. I passed the CBSET the first time and thought it was easy and figured the CSETS would be as well; boy was I wrong. I passed subtest III, but subtest II Math/Science is the death of me! It's incredibly difficult; especially since I just want to stick to K-3. The math and science on the CSET is definitely at high school level (I did not learn any of that difficult math in elementary...and I'm 24, so it wasn't that long ago I graduated high school). I'm considering moving to another state that could have an easier method (I heard California is the hardest...) . I was wondering if anyone knew of other states that are much easier? I do have a bachelor's in Child Development and have been teaching at preschools and subbing in public elementary schools.
     
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  3. Leaborb192

    Leaborb192 Enthusiast

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    So is your basic question: which states is it easier to get a teaching license and job in? I would say take your pick of any red state (Arizona is right next door) and they're (mostly) DESPERATE for teachers and will pretty much hand you a license! The catch: those states aren't the best for teaching, especially if you come from California.
    Avoid a lot of any of the East Coast Blue States (like NY) as it's also a pain to get licensed; people fail left and right to the point NY has eliminated one of the tests and has "safety net'' passing scores...
     
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  4. YoungTeacherGuy

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    I wouldn't give up! Keep trying to pass those CSETs. Teachers here in CA are paid pretty well (in comparison with most other states) and it seems like most of us stick with this gig for the long haul. Plus, a decade ago, it was nearly impossible to land a full time job here. Nowadays, CA teaching jobs are much, much easier to find.
     
  5. svassillion

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    I was about to say avoid MA. Our tests for educator licensure can be grueling which is why MA doesn't accept tests outside of their own (and because it makes them a lot of $$$). I knew some people who had to take one test 11 times before they passed- so it is possible if you keep trying in CA especially if you enlist help from your college or district. But to echo @YoungTeacherGuy the pay tends to reflect the challenge. For example we have tests with as low as 32% pass rate. But my pay here is too good to move back home to NH where it would be a drastic pay cut yet the testing and licensing process is a walk in the park. I would recommend staying determined in CA. The decision of where to teach should be where you feel most comfortable, not where it's easiest to pass the test/get a license. You can do this!
     
  6. AlwaysAttend

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    The truth is you need to understand higher level math and science to anticipate mistakes and present proper explanations, even in K-3.
     
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  7. TeacherGroupie

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    The math skills required for CSET-MS aren't actually that much more advanced than the math skills required to pass CBEST. What's different is that you're expected to be able to apply those skills creatively and in combination to answer questions that, at first, seem to be from out in left field. This is a learnable skill, but I have some bad news: it means that you have to stop giving free rent in your head to the bad voices that are telling you that math is useless and that you can't learn it past a certain point.

    If the test-prep books aren't working for you, it probably isn't about you. Find a high-school student or college student who's a good explainer, or rummage around Free Technology for Teachers (www.freetech4teachers.com) and Richard Byrne's other blogs for online resources to help you with science and math; YouTube videos can be very helpful in visualizing science and seeing how it really does connect with your everyday life, and YouTube is full of pretty good explanations of math and how it works.
     
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  8. alp123

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    Hang in there! I had the same problem with that sub test. I hired a local high school math teacher to tutor me. I also purchased a common core high school science book from Amazon that was much more helpful than the test prep book. (Cliffs) If you passed the CBEST, you probably have a pretty good math foundation. Don't let the wording on the CSET trip you up. I teach elementary so I pretty much needed a refresher math. Practice your constructed responses, they don't need to be paragraphs. Don't leave anything blank. You got this!!! Hugs!
     
  9. txmomteacher2

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    Well since you asked for easy routes. In Texas you do not need to be certified to teach in a pre- school. I am assuming these are like daycares. Now you might need to have a degree if you want to be a director but teacher certifications are not required. Now public school is different. Pre-k and up you need a certification. Our tests are fairly difficult as well and the rules have changed since I got certified in 2004. In fact they have even changed since my daughter got certified in 2014.
     
  10. BioAngel

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    Your better off studying the material and mastering the content in your own state. You are 24 - you should be able to do high school level math material. You may even have 1 or 2 students - even in an early age - that will need to be challenged with higher math skills (I had a 4th grader doing high school math a few years ago). Most other states - I'm licensed in NY and have looked at NJ requirements - require that you can do high school level math, even if you're "just" teaching elementary grades.
     
  11. Numberspell

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    The CSETs are not easy for anyone. How did I pass my English CSETS? I imagined if I were a high school student in this day age, what would a standardized test ask of me? I looked up the standards, bought books specifically on the topics tested on the test, and dedicated all my time to studying.

    Hopping to another state is actually going to be harder.

    The only reason it was easy for me to gain licensure in another state because I already held my teaching credential from California. And even then I still had to take another teaching test!

    California is thereasoin teacher education/preparation for a reason, they have high standards.

    Even if you are just teaching basic math the material they cover in elementary is actually what was covered in middle school years prior...shoot 3rd grade is the new 6th grade these days.

    Study, retake the test, and don't throw away your education because of one test!
     

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