Discussion in 'Elementary Education' started by MissK2015, Sep 16, 2017.
Sep 18, 2017
I'd settle for no giggles when I say the letter P.
LOL, Oh, Teacher, they will learn that elemenopee is five letters when you show them. LOL
But elemonopee is 10 letters.
Lol, I can deal with kids coming in knowing not one letter, but the potty training is where I have to say "Not my job!" When I taught 4 year olds I could guarantee there would be at least three kids the first week who would announce their bowel movement to me in the expectation I was about to come wipe their rear end. Nope, the parents can deal with the skid marks. I also don't think it's too much to ask parents to teach them how to blow their noses.
When you work with kids that young, you almost have to expect that you will be doing things like that sometimes, they're still toddlers. That's one reason why I don't work with that age group anymore; I've done my time, let the younger women do it now (unless it's my granddaughter then I don't mind).
My SiL had an incident where a mom came to register
My SiL had a story where a mother came in to register her twins for kindergarten... and asked at what point in the year they do the potty training. Secretary flat-out told Mom the kids were required to be potty trained before kindergarten registration.
Apparently Mom had been told by multiple people kindergarten was responsible for potty training.
I'm not surprised, Back. Young mothers are so busy these days, they haven't time to raise their children.
Which amazes me. I have a toddler and a preschooler and I know plenty of stay-at-home moms who are doing a-okay with keeping their kids alive and reasonably on target to maturity. With today's technology assisting the intense housekeeping of yesteryear, there's no reason to not be doing A-Okay at keeping kids alive and reasonably on target to maturity. Heck, plenty of them have the time to do some side businesses. My fellow working moms are generally in contact with the childcare folk, swapping information and agreement on such childraising situations.
So when I meet a mom completely unaware of basic childraising scenarios, it blows my mind. Really? You had no time to handle this situation?
Sep 19, 2017
I was wondering the same thing. The parents sat them in front of the tv watching those ridiculous kid shows they have on now. I can't stand them. Not educational at all. At least when my mom plopped me down in front of the tv I watched Sesame Street and could read fluently by the 2nd week of Kindergarten. And the potty training thing is just nuts.
Some people aren't meant to even have kids if their lives are so crazy. Sorry, but it's the truth. They can't take care of themselves so can't even begin to raise a child and expect schools to do it for them.
An excellent book that addresses the phenomenon of many modern parents not communicating with their children is
Suskind, Dana. Thirty Million Words: Building a Child’s Brain. N.Y.: Dutton, 2015.
I've noticed a baby in my church whose family not only communicates with him but exposes him to much music seems quite aware of his surroundings. He's less than a year old, but already he's trying to sing along with the congregation! I can hear him while I'm playing the piano.
I had another idea concerning alphabet drills. Alongside of the drill, there are a multitude of excellent alphabet read-aloud books and also plenty of simple alphabet picture books for independent exploration. Back to the read-alouds, some of these would induce enlightening discussions; the topics or chosen words are quite thought provoking for youngsters. Off the top of my head, I can't recall any specific titles, but I seen many that I thought would be an excellent addition to an early childhood language arts program.
Let's not forget about the fathers when it comes to raising children.
This is actually a story that has popped up in my state. http://bedsharing.nj.com/2/
Have you looked into Tucker Signs or something similar?
Jolly phonics? I think that's what it was called.
After reading so much of that story, and then stopping out of disgust, if I were to say what pops in my mind about this mother, I would have to get offline and repent.
Once, okay, accident; she's a young mother, she didn't know any better. Twice...what happened? Wasn't the first time enough to stop you from ever permitting that from happening again? Third time ARREST HER, and remove all children from her care! It's criminal negligence.
Sep 20, 2017
I couldn't comprehend why they couldn't just buy a baby bed. Or a laundry basket. Those are $5. What a culture.
They actually give away baby boxes for free.
I slept in a dresser drawer on the floor when my relatives had to take care of me when my mother was ill.
The woman in the story lacked parenting skills. I don't think these things happened because of the cost of safe equipment so much as the lack of knowledge about basic safety. It said that she had been involved with CPS for a decade already, which suggests to me that there were ongoing, very long-term issues. There was also mention of filthy living conditions and other problems. It seems like a lot of people and agencies failed this woman. It's hard to know why she didn't do better, especially once CPS became involved initially, but I guess it's hard to know what you don't know or how to get help when you don't realize you aren't doing things the best and safest way. I think that she owns a fair amount of responsibility in what happened, but I also think that the safeguards in place to help prevent these sorts of things were not present in her case. This whole story makes me very sad for everyone involved.
Moving into a more general sense, I don't assume that parents of my struggling students are bad or malicious or that they have intentionally withheld at-home learning from their kids. I assume that they lack parenting skills, that they don't understand how vitally important it is to play with and do things with their kids because it lays the foundation for future success, and/or that they don't have the money that they think they need to get and do what they should be doing (although of course we all know that there are so many great things parents can do with their kids that cost nothing or next to nothing). Some people are terrible people and terrible parents, of course, but I just don't believe that's the majority or even a large minority.
And in any case, none of us can go back into the past and fix what did or did not happen at home or in previous grades. This post here is about alphabet skills in kindergarten, but I can certainly share stories about times students came to my high school classroom lacking basic comprehension skills or couldn't tell you what a noun is or had no social skills to speak of. It's frustrating to have to be the one who gets students to grade level, and I've wondered many times what the heck the teachers before me were doing for this kid to know so little, but it is what it is. It's still my job to teach, regardless of the student's level coming into my classroom, with the goal of getting them at least a little higher than where they were when they started.
Heck, I am now up to 8 2nd graders who can't do basic counting. Granted, half if of them are newbies to the school (meaning possibly rush them to the charter school before the prior school bugs you about problems, little knowing we also are watching and recommending kids), but it is kind of frustrating. What were you doing for two years?
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