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  1. creativemonster

    creativemonster Comrade

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    I need advice -
    My classroom has a lap top cart and my students are each assigned a laptop. My roughly 40 9th graders use them daily and we spend a LOT of wasted time taking them out, and putting them away. Suggestions? Any and all ideas appreciated. I could try having them get them when they come in. But they do all need to put away before they leave the room. Are there systems that you brilliant people use that you could share? I love using them, but we usually jomp on them and off of them, and currently it just eats time. ...help? advise? Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. Leaborb192

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    How much time do you actually have in the class? I'm assuming that since this is HS you have periods and they only have so long to get from one class to the next. These little procedural things are so crucial and yet drive teachers insane. I work in a school that is 1:1 so all the MS and HS have their own laptops that they can bring with them, but many forget in their lockers or need to charge them, etc., which STILL wastes time.
    • How long does it actually take them to do this? I would TIME them and see because that'll give you a concrete starting point.
    • How is the room arranged? Could it be re-arranged in some way that can save some time?
    • Why is it necessary to put them back at the end of each period? Is it for safety (to ensure they don't get damaged or stolen) or to ensure that they are plugged in and charged? I've seen some of the laptop carts and honestly the biggest issue is ensuring that they're plugged into the right chords (which takes FOREVER for kids to do.)
    • Depending on the answer to that question and the room set up, if you have desks, could they just place them under the desks (in the racks) when they are not using them.
    • You may need to look at your plans / schedule and designate computer time and non - computer time so that you can plan time for them to get them and put them away
    • You may need to spend some time JUST practicing how to get the laptops in a certain way and put them back. I really want to know more of what it looks like for the kids to do this? What are the issues? Why does it take them so long? Can you describe more about how it currently looks? I can then brainstorm more ideas from there. I'd also like to know more about how your room is set up as well.
     
  4. Ms.Holyoke

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    Can you leave the laptops on the desks all day? So they have it when they come in and only the first class is taking them out and the last class is putting them back?
     
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    I'm reasonably certain that the laptops will not stay charged for the entire day without being plugged in at some point. I'm betting that laptops are not left out due to the other reasons listed: theft, carelessness/damage, and perhaps the tendency for laptops to be used to access inappropriate websites when the teacher is unable to monitor every single thing going on, such as when classes are entering/exiting. I liked my students being able to bring their own devices when I taught my first couple of years in HS, but I did dislike the use of smart phones, tablets, and laptops for uses not sanctioned by the district or myself.
     
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    I have four classes of 8th graders who use laptops at least twice a week. They get them when they enter the room. I give them three minutes to put them away. Each student puts his/her laptop away, and the class technology helper will make sure they are in the right spot and plugged in, then give me the ready signal.

    Three minutes is pushing it to get them all in the cart, so if someone slacks on their job they get aggravated because they are held past dismissal. They are all assigned a specific number laptop, so it is always obvious who has not done the job.
     
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    Oh you guys rock! Thank you! Timing them - Oh Leahborb, I will start there. When you said (wrote) that, I slapped my forehead - that's so obvious! But I have never done it! I have tables and the cart is over by my desk. The lap tops do need to be put back at end of class, as I need to make sure all remain in room, but I can have one person plug in, or even I can do that part after lunch, they just need to put devices in proper spaces in cart. I like the idea of them getting the devices themselves. Maybe I give them 3 minutes at top to get their groups' devices, and 3 minutes at end of class. (4 people per table group) I am even willing to give them 4 minutes, as even that would be saving time. (we could work our way to 3!) I will try this. My upper classes don't take the same time to get and put back devices, but this group does and I know it is completely because I have inadvertently trained them to waste our time. Happy New Year, time for a change! We won't be using devises tomorrow, but after that I will spend a bit of time setting up new system. Thank you AtoZ people!
     
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    My computers are numbered and each middle school student is assigned a number. As their doing their bell ringer, I call 1-5, 6-10, etc. . ..I do this when it's time to put them away too and it goes really fast. I have 30+ students.
     
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    Ooooh, this makes sense. I can have students collect and replace in increments as well. (also numbered)
     
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    ^
    I like the idea of getting chromebooks during the Do Now so that other students have something to do and it is not a waste of time. I know that my students would struggle to get them quietly but practicing it might help.
     
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    Jan 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM

    Any time I was having a problem with how long it was taking a class to do something, I turned it into a competition. 1st period put their laptops away quietly and got back to their seats in XX time. Can you beat it? They always got excited when they broke the current low time, and there was no prize. Just bragging rights. :) (We did talk pretty thoroughly about what it should look and sound like - no running, voice level, etc.)
     
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    Jan 12, 2019 at 5:35 AM

    I'm an elementary teacher. Procedures for US are EVERYTHING! And I have literally timed my 3rd graders while they did stuff to make a point (good or bad) and we practiced until it got to a more comfortable place. For example, it should not take 5+ minutes for 3rd graders to transition from their desks to the carpet. And at the beginning of the year it will. Understandable. So I told them, "Yeah, we're going to practice until it's QUICKER!"
    And then when they get lazy during the year, it becomes more of a threat for them to get their sh$$ together. "Do we need to practice again?"
    "NO!"

    :rofl:

    The more you emphasize the importance of time and practice procedures until they are smooth, the better.

    (Though I will say that my style considered "harsh'' is often critiqued by my colleagues. I see the looks that they give me. But... this is why I rarely have classroom management problems. And yet their classrooms are freaking zoos! Or they just bribe them for everything. :roll: Not my style.)
     
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    Jan 12, 2019 at 4:51 PM

    Leaborb, that doesn't sound harsh at all to me. ...But, perhaps this is why I prefer high school to elementary!
     
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