Discussion in 'Preschool' started by Joyride, Oct 30, 2006.
Apr 2, 2008
I agree with blue, well said...but I do have an issue with this part. They are not all cheap...and the sentence kind of makes it sound like you are lumping all home daycares into a category of "babysitters who are cheap, unprofessional, and unstructured". I ran my own in-home, and I was none of the above. I was a "teacher" (I cringe at being called a babysitter). I charged just as much as any large center, because I COULD...because my program (not to toot my own horn) was that good. I am sure this is not what you meant, as the remainder of your post was very eloquant and respectful. I just have a hard time reading something that suggests all in-homes are a cheap "babysitting" alternative, is all. There are some that yes, are babysitters...but those of us who were/are proud of our profession made/make it a point to do the opposite.
I didnt mean to offend, just a mistype. I meant a cheaper home daycare option. In general, the home daycares I visited were much less expensive than Kindercare. That is a reflection of price, not quality.
My issue with home daycares was/is availability. Usually they are run by one person and when that person is sick or has a sick family member, then they would not be available. A center daycare is always open.
Totally understandable. That is the one downfall to homecare. I was lucky to have only used one sick day within 3 years (my son had the flu), always gave more than ample notice for vacation days, and even found a sub teacher when I went on maternity leave. My families were rarely in a stick, and the benefits I gave the kids outweighed it (highly structured program, etc.).
I can understand people not wanting to deal with it though. It can be stressful if a family doesn't really have any alternative to use if a home center is closed for a day.
And I wasn't actually offended, just wanted to clarify...I was pretty certain that I just took it wrong.
Apr 3, 2008
Forge Kindercare, everyone says that Kindercare is easy to get a job at. This is not true. I applied/interviewed at several locations with no luck. I did recently started to work at a small independent preschool.
Yes, don't we all want this for our children? It sounds like you're trying to justify your poor choices you've made for your children. I have worked for a center in the past (the director makes all the difference), however, MY choice was to give my children the 'best quality care', 'best quality food', and a 'germ free environment' that I could. So I didn't send them there. Why would you settle for inferior food or anything less for yours? There ARE better choices out there. Do what's right for your children.
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Turtle, as I agree with the fact that there much better choices than Kindercare, I think what she was saying was different than how you took it. I think what she was trying to say is that any center will have imperfections, and if parents are trying to find a center without flaws then they need to just stay at home and not deal with daycare. That is how I took it anyway. Perhaps I am wrong though.
Apr 5, 2008
I don't think I responded to this question yet..but, it is hard to say that any organization is willing or able to honor your request for a transfer. Getting a job up north, simply based on your hopes of getting transferred to western suburbs will not work...IMO. If you got hired, you would be miserable with the commute, (even arrive late a few times too many) and that would sabbatoge your efforts of looking good and applying for a transfer.
I also see you are male, and you wonder if this is an issue. I don't think so. Many preschool programs actively seek male teachers!
I have to disagree with you on Head Start. They are not only for minorities. They are designed for children and families at risk. It is based on income. That goes for all races and nationalities. Hate to tell you that traditionally, minorities have been at risk...and will probably continue...until somebody or something changes...That is why is why you think it is not for everyone...because everyone is not at risk. that is my Maybe when economic and social situations change...we won't need Head Start, or it can become part of State Pre-K programs!
BTW... did you know there is a Head Start in Orland???
ditto...but you must be open and understanding to the field...and that means going where the jobs are, even if that is inner city neighborhoods, or high income but special needs children in surburban schools.
I used to wonder why I had a large amount of job offers for special ed, until I realized that it is part of the territory.
So if you don't want to work with learning disabled, autistic, or minority, low income children...
just thought I would let you know...
Was this a mistake/typo too???
and the woman who said it isnt HER fault there is traffic/snow/bus delays, boo-hoo. My commute is 1 hours each way and I manage it. it is called planning and consideration, try it.
I guess I don't know, and have yet learned how to plan for freight trains, buses that break down, and Chicago snowstorms.
Nothing inconsiderate about that.
It's called, life and life happens.
I knew the director was always there until 6:30 the teachers did not have to stay. My babysitters were more understanding.
BTW...that was before cell phones. And no, her father (my mother, friend, family member) could not pick her up...I guess if they could, I wouldn't need daycare anyway.
With Private Preschools and Home-based Pre-Schools EVERYTHING (food, curriculum, ratio, teacher qualifications) depends on the philosophy, education and experience of the Director. Good Director = Good Quality. Poor Director = Poor Quality
Ususally with the for-profit chains, the Director is hired to run the center according to the philosophy of the chain and State Guidelines. The decisions for curriculum, education and requirments of the teachers, ratios, wages, food are all made by the chain. Usually the bottom line for these for-profit chains is the profit.
Apr 6, 2008
I have tried several times at several locations to get a job at kindercare and they will not hire me. I have a degree and experience. I recently got a job at a small independent mom and pop day care. So far I love it. Just that I need to find a FULL TIME job. Any advice why a independent as big as kindercare would not hire someone with experience and a degree?
I used to work for a good KinderCare. I left only to become a nanny for an increase in pay and to cut my commute down. I had managed to keep the same core group of children from their 2nd birthdays until many were approaching age 4. You never expect that to happen in most places, esp. a chain like KinderCare but I can attribute it to the director and her assistant who could see it was so good for the kids AND their parents. Funny thing is, I felt so terrible for leaving even though it was best for my situation at the time, and within 2 months the entire management staff turned over, the center became unprofitable, and it was closed. So it wouldn't have mattered.
The KinderCare I work at now is pitiful. The building is falling apart, the staff is uncaring and lazy with few exceptions, we get lunch an hour late at times, ratios are meaningless, etc. I go to the library every week and lug home 20-30 books on our curriculum which the kids soak up like sponges. Management refuses to buy us books. I do the best I can with what I have and it's more draining on me physically/emotionally than I can put into words. My pre-K parents and kids are happy with what we do and that helps. I am working toward my CDA as quickly as possible and then I can work in the school system's pre-K program. The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that my current class is learning a great deal and that I'll one day work for an organization that does not exist for anyone's financial gain.
PROFIT. The would rather hire someone with minium education and experience and pay less.
about parents being late:
i teach pre-K at my center and both my children attend; my soon-to-be-three year old son and my 15 month old daughter both go there; my classroom is downstairs, both of theirs are upstair; i have worked there for almost four years; all the employees are pretty close; i mean, we're not all friends, but we all pretty much get along and help each other out
we close at 6, but a lot of times i end up going upstairs after 6 because of cleaning up my classroom and getting things in order; there are a couple of teachers who usually offer to watch my kids when i'm finishing up; they joke about me having to pay the late fee when i come up after six, but we all try to help each other out
when parents are late, we charge $10 for every 15 minutes per child; so if there are 2 kids from one family, they actually have to pay $20 for every 15 minutes; the parents almost always call, unless they for some reason can't through; the teacher who stays with the kids gets the money; our directors sometimes offer to stay, but if another teacher who has a key doesn't mind closing up, they usually end up leaving; even teachers who don't have keys sometimes stay because they can lock the front door and go out a side door that is locked from the outside; we always ask each other who wants to stay or who minds staying; there are some teachers who have to leave for class or because they have plans or because they have kids waiting at home; those of us who don't mind staying, will stay, because we help each other out; and the parents usually can't help being late; they come in with multiple apologies and most of the parents are highly appreciative of us and let us know it; if you pull together with your coworkers and your parents, late pick ups shouldn't be a spring board for such problems, as long as its not a regular thing by the same parents
Apr 7, 2008
Non profit would be a head start program. They are usually for minorities or low income areas. They pay crap and in dangerous areas usually.
While it is true that Head Start programs are a non-profit program and they serve low-income families. However, you forgot to mention that Head Start programs also provide services for children with disabilities. For more information on the purpose of Head Start programs follow this link. http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/hsb/index.html
As for the pay being "crap" and the programs usually being in dangerous areas. I have to disagree. As a former Head Start employee, I have to say the pay was "good" for me--I left a private center making minimun wage and went to a Head Start program making 10.50/hour. I was also provided insurance and able to continue my education in IECE. In Kentucky some programs are in the "bad parts of town", but I have also seen many private centers that are in the "bad parts of town also."
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