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  1. bella84

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    Is the charter job at-will? If so, I'd accept it just for the job security, but I'd keep looking for something better. You'll find the people come and go throughout the summer and school year at charter schools. Unless they have a contract that you can't break without paying a fee, you might as well accept it and then back out later. The chances are good that they are already accustomed to this.
     
  2. Ms.Holyoke

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    How would I find out if it is at will? I have to sign a letter of intent to accept the position.
     
  3. bella84

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    You’d have to read the contract... which probably means accepting orally but not signing anything until you’ve thoroughly read it. You can always back out until you sign the contract, and you can still back out after that if it’s at-will.
     
  4. Ms.Holyoke

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    Would backing out of the contract tarnish my reputation? That is what I am worried about. :(
     
  5. bella84

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    It’s possible. But, unless you are in a small town, it’s probably not a big deal. Many charter schools see a lot of teacher turnover, even before the school year begins. In the end, you have to look out for yourself.
     
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  6. Ms.Holyoke

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    I just got an automated email that the position for the school I taught my demo lesson at closed. :( They didn't even email me personally. There's one more math job at that school open but I don't think it's a good sign. I am really upset :(
     
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    After experiencing many ups and downs in my own search for the ideal job, I learned to trust in God. Contrary to what I wanted to believe, I didn't have the power to make things go my way no matter how hard I tried. Even when I got the job I thought I wanted, it was never what I had hoped it would be. Although it's normal for us to feel dejected, frustrated, angry or upset when a job offer fails to materialize, have faith that the right job for you will appear when you least expect it - it just won't happen when you want it to! In the meantime, keep praying in earnest.
     
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  8. pommom

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    Yes, this part is so true. I relate. "Even when I got the job I thought I wanted, it was never what I had hoped it would be." I have had 2 teaching positions in hard to get into schools that I desired to teach so much. Both schools turned out horrible.
    Teacher job hunting is mentally exhausting. I am in the same boat too.
     
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    Try not to panic and think all the doors and closing. Have you considered looking outside the box? If you need experience, private and parochial schools are another option. You may find more openings, and much more flexibility in the smaller schools. As a new teacher, you will definitely find smaller classrooms.

    Other programs need teachers as well. Group homes for foster children children need teachers. There are behavior modification programs for learning disabilities and challenging students under the district umbrella, or independent companies. After school programs with park districts and social service agencies are other avenues you can try. Non-profit programs that are geared towards homeless children are another option. Testing programs such as Kaplan also hire teachers as tutors.

    These positions may not pay nearly want you are seeking, but they will give you a bridge to cross before decide the best job for you. They will give you some hands-on experience, and perhaps help you narrow down choices for areas where you are willing to teach. Additionally, you can actively job hunt while employed. It will be less of a stigma to leave after one semester, or at least 6 months to a year. You will have some money coming in, and again...build experience.
     
  10. Ms.Holyoke

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    ^
    I have a two year commitment to a high needs school, so I am looking at these specific districts.
     
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  12. pommom

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    I relate. I was hired in July for both of my teaching jobs even though I was applying and interviewing since April!
    Quick thought, don't schools consider teachers with actual teaching experience before college graduates?
    I think I would be ideal candidate to want to interview first because they won't spend too much of their budget on me since I have BA with just 2 years of teaching experience. Yet, I actually do have experience compared to college graduates. The only thing that may look bad is that I am not consistent in staying at a school even though I want to when I find the right position for me.
    The first school was private, and the pay was horrible. The one I am at now is at a public high school, which I am definitely not right for high school.
     
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  14. Master Pre-K

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    They also repost openings when their handpicked buddy or relative turns down the job. They had to post it, but knew all along they had a person mind. Interview 3 candidates and turned them all down. Then they look foolish when director’s cousin/sister/aunt decides to take another job. Nepotism runs rampant in the school systems. When a small district runs out of family members, they have to post the job.
     
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    Your first job will rarely be the perfect teaching job or your forever school. I would accept the charter, and if it’s at will, I would sign it. If something better comes along, you are free to accept. The job may be imperfect but not necessarily completely horrible and it will provide valuable experience.
     
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  17. Ms.Holyoke

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    The charter emailed me and is willing to extend the offer until Friday. They also said they will be interviewing other candidates as well.

    I'm thinking of turning it down because I learned that...
    -Teacher hours are 7:30-4:30. This seems way too long considering I will have prep to work on after school.
    -Class sizes are 30-32 students. :(
    -I would have to start the school year on July 30th for PD...which is basically a month of unpaid work.
     
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    Yeah, sounds like a recipe for a bad first year, and some strong disillusionment for the profession. I'd avoid it.
     
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    Run away as fast as you can. Don't look back, either!
     
  20. bella84

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    Honestly, I would still accept the job if you have nothing else lined up. It will give you experience to put on your resume, which may help you to get another job later on in the year or next year.
     

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