Job Hunt Frustration, Venting & Support Thread!

Discussion in 'General Education' started by Leaborb192, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Leaborb192

    Leaborb192 Connoisseur

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    For real! And they cry that there's a 'teacher shortage..' umm no! There's plenty of us out there UNEMPLOYED who would <3 to get a job! Though talking with some friends they mentioned that if you're a good sub, they may not want to promote you to teacher and lose you as a sub. It's such an insult! They'd rather hire mediocre/ possibly crappy teachers than lose a good sub?! The thing too is that they'll hire these people and they probably won't stay. There's been a lot of resignations in the past few years, especially at one school, so how does that make any sense? And yet they'll still pass me over I'm sure.

    The small town mentality is total bs!
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    I also just want to add that I suck at interviews, but am awesome at doing the job... which to me, is the only thing that should matter. But apparently it's not.
     
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  2. agdamity

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    You should brush up on your interview skills. If you don't interview well, you won't get hired. Period. Also, revamp your resume.

    If I recall correctly, you spent a lot of time last summer complaining that inside people got all the jobs and districts never hired outsiders. Now, you're complaining that you, an insider, didn't get an interview. I think your time would be better served improving your resume and interview skills Ask if you can have a mock interview and receive some feedback. Find out what skills they are looking for, and make sure they are highlighted on your resume.
     
  3. Leaborb192

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    But that's the frustrating part! It's not like I interviewed poorly and didn't get the job, they didn't even call me for an interview AT ALL. At least that part I can understand. But I sent a message asking her basically that question and she told me she can't discuss it now since they are interviewing, but will talk to me after. I'm looking forward to hearing what she says.
    If it's an interview or resume thing, that's a pretty easy fix.

    And one of my classmates who got an interview has a 'connection' (she told me) that I wouldn't necessarily be proud of the way she got it. So if they hire her... well.. yeah!
    :rofl:
     
  4. christie

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    It might be worth your while to ask, since you work there, how you might improve your chances of getting an interview. I hate to say this, but generally when someone in our building applies for a permanent job and isn't even given an interview, the reason tends to be their performance in our building.

    I get that knowing people helps, but if you're in the building - you know people. Are there people you can ask to support your application? Even a casual mention might do you good, assuming performance is not the issue.
     
  5. Leaborb192

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    Which may be the answer, but unless the principal is fake/ two - faced because she's actually complimented me on my classroom management since she's popped into see me teaching -- that's not it.
    I'm definitely going to dig deeper about it to know why. I'll play investigator but won't drive myself crazy either. I'll look at it as fate telling me what to do.
     
  6. Leaborb192

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    I think it's my resume, application and /or interview. All of these are easy fixes. I'm going to go to my college's career planning and have them help beef up my resume and I can do a mock interview and then they do a play by play of my performance. Then I should be good to go.
    :)
     
  7. MsAbeja

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    I feel like I'm in limbo right now. I'm currently on temporary contract at a school where I have worked for 4 years. I was an instructional assistant for most of that time, then student taught there, and when my student teaching was over my cooperating teacher went on leave and I took over the classes for the rest of the year. I'm waiting to hear if I will be asked back for the 2017-2018 school year. I'm in CA, so I was hoping to know by March 15th, but apparently HR didn't have to tell me by March 15th because I didn't start my temp. contract until December. I asked my P about it, and he said he should know more by April. We're currently on Spring Break, we go back on April 17th. I haven't been applying anywhere else yet, because I don't have my 3 letters of recommendation in hand yet, though I do have people lined up to write them.

    I'm frustrated, because I'm a planner, and this wait is killing me. I don't want to work at any of the other nearby districts, so if I'm not offered this job I don't really know what I'll do. I hate this.
     
  8. Committed2DaProfession

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    Of those three things, it's most likely the interview and/or basic qualifications for the job. While principals(or hiring managers) in highly competitive districts(or industries) will add/deduct points for a highly polished cover letter/resume, I would imagine that most would put more weight behind your qualifications(education, certifications, relevant experience, language proficiency, references, etc) for the job and the overall impression they get from the interview...all things being equal.
    Keep in mind that a good interviewer's job is to visualize the candidate in whatever role they are applying for. Therefore, you need to present yourself like a teacher/leader/authority figure, give specific answers to classroom scenario questions and sell yourself as the best candidate/fit for that job and that school. I know it sounds like a lot, but nobody said it would be easy. I hope this helps.

    I am fairly new to teaching by the way...
     
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    If you are not hired to stay in the district you love, you will have to decide how much you hate the other other districts versus being unemployed. I would suggest getting your LOR's in hand sooner rather than later, which will make you prepared for whatever course of action you need to pursue.
     
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    It's not the other districts that I hate, it's the commute. I refuse to spend 45 minutes driving one way to my place of work. So I suppose my options would be continue to sub in my district while looking for an in, or apply to the few nearby private schools that seem like a good fit.

    Either way, you're right that I need those LOR in my hand sooner rather than later.
     
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    For what it's worth - I drive an hour each way, and not as bad as you would think. You're just starting out - verifiable experience as the classroom teacher is very valuable.
     
  12. MsAbeja

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    I might change my tune if I really can't find any job within reasonable distance from my home after exhausting every single other option (subbing in the district while waiting for an opening, getting a job in a local private school, etc.) but more likely I would relocate my family. Maybe I'm being precious, but I just won't do a long commute. I have three small children at home, and am maxed out on stress! https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/urban-survival/201501/commuting-the-stress-doesnt-pay

    I can't take the added stress of a long commute! Kudos to those of you who do it and manage, truly. Right now I'm incredibly luck because I live less than a mile from the school where I work, and I commute by bike. I'm able to bike to my oldest daughter's school after work to pick her up from extracurricular activities, and we bike home. It's really great. I'm hoping we get to keep it.
     
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    It always amazes me how people who say they are desperate to find a job always have so many things they they are not willing to compromise on such as commute. I don't think 45 minutes is insane.
     
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    When I first graduated, my commute was anywhere between 45 and 75 minutes depending on whether I drove or took transit. While it was far from ideal, it was a job and valuable experience. I was single, or married without kids, so my time was more flexible. After my children were born, I was home for many years and then was adamant about being close to home when I returned to work.

    Many of the people in my town commute over an hour to the city; it's the norm here.
     
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    Pretty sure I never said that I am desperate for a job. If it comes to that I would have to reconsider, but I'm going to exhaust all other options first. I don't think it's a bad idea to be realistic about what I'm looking for.
     
  16. TeacherNY

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    It's not only you that I'm referring to. There are posts about this same topic every year.
     
  17. swansong1

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    I was also not willing to commute a long distance when my children were little. I think it is much more important to be close to my family and immediately available if the need arises.

    My job has always come second to my family.
     
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    I think it's great that you bike to work, @MsAbeja . I wish more people would do that who live close by. That is definitely a big perk and I don't blame you one bit for not wanting a commute.
     
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    I don't do long commutes either. One year, I had a 50 min commute in the morning and 90 min to get back home due to rush hour. Never again.
     
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    So I went to my college's career planning office and the counselor helped me with my resume. She gave me a template and a homework assignment. She wanted me to take what I did have (which was garbage) and align it to the template. Below is what I created. Please critique it for me.
    :)


    EDUCATION:

    MSED, B- 6 Literacy Specialist | SCHOOL Anticipated: May 2018

    · SUNY Graduate Scholarship 2016-17

    MS, Childhood Education 1-6 | SCHOOL May 2014

    · Graduated with Distinction, GPA: 3.97

    · Student of the Year, Teacher Opportunity Corps

    BA, Spanish Language and Literature | SCHOOL May 2012

    · Graduated Cum Laude, GPA: 3.41

    · Dean’s List, spring 2012

    · President’s List, spring 2011

    · Presented Research at National Conference of Undergraduate Research, Ithaca College, NY

    CERTIFICATIONS:

    NYS Initial Certification Literacy B – 6 Pending: May 2018

    NYS Initial Certification Spanish 7-12 Pending: May 2018

    NYS Initial Childhood Education 1-6 June 2014

    EXPERIENCES:

    K – 12 Substitute Teacher | SCHOOL September 2016- present

    Third grade Teacher | SCHOOL July 2015- May 2016

    · Exceeded Growth in Math & ELA District test scores

    · Used Engage NY math and HM’s Journeys ELA curriculum

    · Wrote Individual Language Learner Profiles (ILLPS) to meet ELLs’ needs

    · Named Rio Vista’s Teacher of the Month (December 2015)

    Third grade Teacher | SCHOOL July 2014- May 2015

    · Used observation data to reflect and inform instructional practice

    · Used benchmark data to form math and ELA intervention groups and drive instruction

    · Used Pearson’s Envision math and HM’s Journeys ELA curriculum

    · Collaborated with parents and hosted parent volunteers

    · Co- coordinated Reading Buddies program with 5th grade teacher to promote literacy among students

    · Founded and advised school’s first Spanish club

    Student Teacher | SCHOOL March 2014- May 2014

    · Taught 6th grade ELA, STEM and Social Studies for 8 weeks

    · Collaborated with colleagues to create thematic unit on hydroponics

    Student Teacher |SCHOOL January 2014- March 2014

    · Taught 2nd grade for 8 weeks

    · Piloted McGraw Hill’s My Math and Wonders ELA curriculum

    · Created Spanish thematic unit plan and taught lessons to end placement

    Spanish Tutor | SCHOOL August 2010- May 2014

    · Tutored Spanish 101- 203 to students with learning disabilities at the college level

    · Worked with professors to create individualized lesson plans

    Spanish Teacher’s Assistant | SCHOOL January 2011- May 2011

    · Taught whole group lessons to Spanish 102 students

    · Assisted small groups of students with oral and written communication in the language

    VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE:

    Writing Mentor | SCHOOL February 2017- April 2017

    · Mentored 7th and 8th graders with the writing process

    Literacy Mentor | SCHOOL September 2013- December 2013

    · Assisted 4th grader with reading, writing and homework help

    PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS:

    Member, Kappa Delta Pi | SCHOOL October 2013- present

    EXTRA CURRICULAR INTERESTS:

    Member, Teacher Opportunity Corps | January 2013- May 2014

    Staff Writer, The Racquette | August 2008- May 2012

    Vice- President, French Club | August 2008 – May 2012

    Secretary, Spanish Club | August 2008- May 2012

    Member, CAMPUS AIDS Education Group | August 2008 – May 2012

    Member, LGBT Club | August 2008 – May 2012
     

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