"Interesting" conversation with a teacher

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  1. Joyful!

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    I really pray, but I'm sure some people don't. When I commit to prayer for someone, it is not a "let's do lunch sometime" escape clause with no meat behind it. It is a commitment of time and earnest communication on the behalf of the situation or person. Prayers are not instead of help. Prayers are in addition to help. At least for the folks in my church, I can say that is the case. For some people, this statement is the case, "More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of." If you are a person of prayer, that is your belief. Prayer can change things that people can't. I know that there are hypocrites in every aspect of life, including religious people, or whatever term is appropriate to use there. I know that prayer may not mean much to some. That's okay. It doesn't diminish my belief in its power, and it doesn't diminish my commitment to pray for people. However, I know that by listening to this thread that some people see a promise to prayer as a cop out for physical assistance. That's okay too. It just gives me a clear perspective on the views of others, and I will do my best to be careful not to state that I am praying for those who see it as a polite statement to avoid engagement. I appreciate hearing everyone's viewpoint. It's been instructive. And, I'll continue to pray for those who request it. I think some of this conversation results from so many people of faith lacking wisdom and discernment and faithfulness. You are inspiring me to be super careful. Thanks!
     
  2. Aces

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    I think my biggest thing with any religion is that there's a difference between intelligent conversation about religion and a heated debate or a recruitment attempt. As far as I'm concerned as long as we can have intelligent conversation about it, I don't mind discussing religion in the slightest. I've also had way too many people preach at me so I just tend not to discuss it.
     
  3. Joyful!

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    I agree. Spiritual matters are close to the heart. Your heart is one place that should be safe from angry debate. It's the reason old people always said, "Don't discuss religion or politics." I'm afraid that we have forgotten how to differ without being difficult. I definitely love what I love, but I recognize that other people love what they love. Express, but don't explode. I should make that into a poster. :) Respect and regard people with the respect and regard you would anticipate in return. Because we are living in a world where we are so strident in our views about everything, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation on even the simplest things. I mean, look at some of the discussions on the boards here. We are a society that can make whether or not to give a kid a sticker on a test a major debate point. I think this conversation is a good example of what we can all do when we have respect and regard and a listening ear. Now, back to the thread about baseball. :)
     
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    I was reading a thread elsewhere and it was discussing helping someone after a difficult situation. The person was upset because they felt like they were being invaded by people offering to bring food to them after a difficult surgery of a family member.

    Seems to me that people are looking for reasons to be offended. We live in a country where many people are spiritual or religious. They truly believe that praying helps others just like bringing a dinner will do.

    People discuss their lives. Sometimes they tell people things that make others feel that they must do something. Those who are religious who here plights of people do believe prayer will help. Some believe action will help, and as I have stated some don't want that either. Then it makes me question why those who don't want prayer or action dump their plights on others. What do they want? Seems to me it is to hear exactly what they want the way they want it. Is that really fair to others? Those looking for sympathy or empathy will usually end up with a prayer when they tell someone who is religious because that is the most important thing they can do for the person because they believe their soul which is everlasting is important even if the person doesn't believe it or believe it yet. So, how is offering a prayer for someone so bad if you don't believe in it anyway?
     
  5. greendream

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    I think you answered yourself earlier in your own post: people are looking for reasons to be offended.
     
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    I'll take all the prayers I can get. Thank you.
     
  7. corunnermom

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    I'm a Christian and I do name drop God from time to time because He's the most important person in my life. However, I do not think it's anyone's place to disrespect your religion and evangelize, especially in a school setting. I'd be a bit disturbed too, but hopefully that makes you feel more confident in your faith. Always be proud to share it. I have a friend who's a Mormon and we agree to disagree! Yes, I'm one of those non-evangelizing Christians.
     
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  8. Aces

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    Agreed and honestly I have to admit, the area I live in is extremely tolerant and such. So for the most part, I never really have issues. One here or there once in a while. My coworker who doesn't talk to me is I think a special exception to that.

    ...I mean, this state has a slight history over throwing temper tantrums...

    Also Riddle for y'all: a man was born and raised in Boston, as were his parents and their parents. But none of them are American citizens. Why?
     
  9. catnfiddle

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    Boston in Lincolnshire, England?
     
  10. Aces

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    No, Boston, Massachusetts
     
  11. jadorelafrance

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    They were born before 1776?
     
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    Winner winner chicken dinner.
     
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  13. catnfiddle

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    Ah, I overthought that one.
    That being said, it's Wing Night tonight, so I'm STILL getting a chicken dinner.
     
  14. TeacherNY

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    I don't think people should stop praying for others if they choose to do so. I do think it has become something to say. Do you think the 99 people who comment "prayers" on Facebook in response to a post are really praying for these people? Or do they just say it just to have a response?
     
  15. a2z

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    I think most do say a prayer. Prayers don't have to be long and drawn out. I bet most pray right when they decide to type their post.
     
  16. stephenpe

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    Im so glad that a2z finally allows threads like this. I have been coming here for a very long time. I discovered prayer when I was 16. It helped me. My first love moved away and we broke up. I would walk up to our small town Presbyt, church like 1am and walk in (small town church wasnt locked) and pray for her and me. After that my life was like I had an angel on my shoulder watching over me. This was after mom had left a few years earlier (she was an alcoholic). Over 30 years later after my divorce I would pray a lot for my kids and ex. One night right after I prayed for him and went to bed my son called and said he was just held up at gun point while delivivering food. They missed his wallet and didnt hurt him. They were young and stupid so he was "lucky" or dad "helped" Not a church going man (much when I was a kid and into my early 20s), but when I spent time with native Americans and observed their prayers I saw something simple but powerful.
     
  17. catnfiddle

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    There has been a prayer request sub-forum for years. I hope you find it if you haven't already. It has brought me a measure of comfort when I've needed it.
     
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