Discussion in 'General Education' started by teaching-is-hell, Jan 7, 2019.
Jan 12, 2019
My admin this year does not interact with our students at all. I find it very strange.
@YoungTeacherGuy, I’ve always wondered, why do districts cycle their admin from site to site? If a P or VP is doing great things for a school, then wouldn’t it behoove said school to have an employee who is fully invested in it long term as opposed to just the short term?
OP is not considering a school admin position..
Jan 14, 2019
We (site administrators) are at the mercy of the superintendent and school board. If they want to move us, then they move us. We have zero say. None whatsoever.
We've been told that each spring, they write the names of each school on a large white board along with the names of each P & VP on post-it notes. Then, they move us around or keep us where we are based on "fit". It's a several hour long process and about 5-6 people have a say in who goes where. Many, many factors come into play when they place us at a particular school.
I love our current admin team! Our principal is constantly in the hall and popping into classrooms just to say hi. We have over 1600 students, and I'd bet she knows 1000 names, just from stopping and introducing herself in the hallway, and attending every kind of school event imaginable! Our three APs and assistant AP are also always out in the halls during class changes and and lunch. Each teacher here has a freshman or 2 to mentor, and our admin always sign up to mentor, as well. It makes such a difference! They never ask teachers to do anything they aren't also doing.
I am still alive and enjoying my new career. It turned out a coworker who got hired at the same time as me was a teacher himself, taught in inner-city and overseas.
Jan 15, 2019
I might have missed it. What is your new career?
Jan 21, 2019
"Yes and no. Some people don’t like teaching and flourish as admin. I know admin who were prior teachers and did not like their job and felt administration was their true calling."
That's not always the case though. It depends on the personality and work attitude of the person.
I love teaching, and I love working with children, but I need a break from the classroom now that I have my own kids at home. I applied for an admin position last year and didn’t get it. When I found out who did, it was a teacher who wasn’t great and did the bare minimum. I talked with one of our sped admin about why and she said “sometimes the worst teachers make the best administrators”.
That’s such an awful perspective. The best admin I’ve worked with and for are the ones who have a heart for students AND can lead staff.
Jan 22, 2019
Good luck with all that! Fortunately, I'm retired now, but when I was looking for another field to get into when I was fed up with teaching, most HR people would say, "Ah, all you can do is teach." They're way too lazy to think about the skills that are associated with the education profession and how those skills could apply to their business.
Also, sorry to say, being 40 and looking for 75K? I'm afraid "that ain't happenin'" in today's job market.
This is what I am going through now, but I am younger than 40, and I am applying to jobs not anywhere near 75k. It is tough to get out of education with high pay. It is true what you said that these employers really do not realize how many duties and multi-tasking teachers are responsible for. These skills can easily be applied to any position. However, it seems like past job titles are more important to them.
Jan 27, 2019
To the OP: there are some teaching positions that would leave out the 2 main negatives teachers cite: dealing with student behavior and spending way too much time lesson planning. Maybe you consider those? You spent so much time and money on getting your credential, why let it go to waste?
1. there are online schools, such as k-12.com, etc. I don't know much about them so I can't offer details.
2. independent study. I've transferred to a school like that (same district, actually that school merged with my old school and now actually even my old school is half independent study).
I love it. The students are really angles. I'm not being sarcastic. But I can imagine half of them, if put in a classroom would be the Sleepers, Back Talkers, Jokers and other major problems. One on one, they have no audience, have no reason to disrespect me and we can just focus on learning and getting ahead with their credits.
Yes, it is a lot of paperwork, and I knew that, but you have time for that. What I didn't know was how you can really get to know these students. I have 29 students and over half I have developed very good relationships within the first couple of months. Quite a few opened up to me about deep things. There are a few who who are still shy by nature, which is fine but I know I can actually make a difference in these students' lives. I couldn't have had the same conversations, or give to same amount of time and attention to each of my students while I was classroom teaching.
I do miss standing in front of a classroom, but I happily gave it up for peace of mind ad no overtime. There is no planning. everything is in the computer and you print it out. No it doesn't seem like teaching at all, but you go over it with the students, you can modify the assignments and you pt as much more into it as you want.
At my school we can actually teach some elective classes to these students (we have music, arts and crafts, ELD, etc) and I ' just now starting to teach English 3 (students are struggling with that curriculum, way too high), and English 2 (novel, some students would just not open a novel on their own). I volunteered to do this, classes start this week and I'm super happy because I have the best of both worlds.
Jan 28, 2019
Hi there. Try to figure out what kind of job or profession you are interested in. Then start searching for companies or employers and also, try to understand what are the main requirements. Probably you will need to learn something new for that job
Why is 75K your magic number?
My friend lives in Maui and 75K provides him the lifestyle my 40K does in Iowa. If I had stayed in I.T., I would be miserably making 75K by now but could live ridiculously well AND afford a coke habit.
You adjust your lifestyle according to how much you make.
I prefer Mountain Dew myself.
Those two jobs you listed are difficult to get even with teaching experience. I have tried. Your current job sounds amazing !
Of course, the fact is that there are very few jobs that pay $75,000 that you can get with just a degree in education and/or experience as a teacher. If those kind of jobs were easily available, you'd have a lot fewer teachers.
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