I Don't Know what I'm DOING!!!!

Discussion in 'Elementary Education' started by scared, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. Lynnnn725

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    She probably does have a training - she just wants to learn a lot before the training.

    If you were on my team, we would take you under our wings. We would want you to ask as many questions as you needed. We would give you copies of our lesson plans (everyone does them differently on our team) and you would get a variety of formats and ideas to create your own. You would also be looking at them to make sure you're on the right track. Our team meets once a week and we would check in with you to see how things are going and to prepare you for the upcoming week. We would bounce ideas off each other. We would invite you into our rooms to see our various ways of organizing things. We would be telling you what resources to look through to get a better idea of our district's practices. But that's just if you were on my team.
     
  2. novalyne

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    If you are at the right type of school, you will have two important resources - a mentor teacher and a good team. You need to take advantage of both of them. A lot of times, your team teachers are totally willing to help you out, BUT - they aren't thinking of you constantly, so sometimes they forget to check on you. If you are not going to them, they might assume you're doing fine. You will have to be the one to take charge of getting help.

    1. Ask questions - as many as you can think of. Write them down if you need to so that you can email them or ask your mentor/teammates.

    2. At this point, copy as much as you can from other teachers. Your first year is the time to be learning classroom management, pacing, content, etc. Don't try to be a superhero and plan all of your lessons from scratch. If anyone on your team is willing to share their plans, take them and use them. Next year will be the time when you can start on the fabulous lesson plans.

    3. Take it one day at at time, but have a long-term view. It would be a good idea to take a look at curriculum and the scope/sequence for the year. That way you'll know what things need to be covered. But concentrate on getting the next week set up. It's easy to get so caught up in the day-to-day stuff that you can end up at semester break with too much content that hasn't been covered. But you also won't be able to plan too far ahead - if you start trying to have the whole year planned out in detail, you'll go crazy!

    4. Commit to the time it's going to take. My first year is a huge blur for me. I worked evenings and weekends and I never felt on top of things. That's just the way it goes. It WILL get easier.

    5. Relax and take a deep breath! You are new, but as long as you care and want to learn, you will be fine. I would much, much rather have my children learning from a brand new teacher who was passionate and trying, than from an old pro teacher who was just putting in time.
     
  3. skittleroo

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    Well you are not alone. I feel very similar. I am worried for the OP and the kids. First of all, I am alternatively certified, but I DID do student teaching. I felt the student teaching was critical for my success as a teacher. Can't afford to go without a job? I was a single mother of 5 little ones at the time. I made it through and got a position a few months later.

    Unfortunately I don't think we do our kids any good by putting someone with zero experience in a classroom. But it is what it is. I wish the OP the best of luck and if you have passion for this career you will make it to the top. I am a fabulous teacher, but spent LOTS of time to get there. I went on and got my Masters in Education.

    I beg you... please make sure you desire to teach - not just have a job. This is NOT a job. You will go home EXHAUSTED if you do it right.

    If you truly want to teach you can do this because you will read everything you can get your hands on, ask questions left and right, learn from the best teachers, and continue your education into our field.
    But if you think the schools will hand you everything you need to do your "job", you are mistaken. Sure a good mentor will help tons, but they won't be able to teach your class for you.

    I truly hope you are like me and many other alternatively certified teachers - realize after college or after another career that what you truly want to do is teach young kiddos. It can be done and you can become one of the best. However, if its a job to pass the time until something better comes along or if you think its easy (it sounds like you realize it will be hard) or if you just want holidays and summers off - you will regret the decision.

    I'm just being real. Some people will only congratulate you and neglect to tell you the reality, but I feel for you, the kids, and the profession you need to hear the truth. :hugs:
     
  4. mom2mikey

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    Really the original poster is a social worker. I would tend to think she has some experience with children. I've been teaching for 18 years and have a load of experience under my belt and there are still days that I could write her words. I find it odd that everyone is thinking that she literally has no experience or training at all. Certainaly some of what you learn to become a social worker would carry over to teaaching.
     
  5. skittleroo

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    I agree with this. Copy someone who is good and over time you can change things around to be more --YOU.
     
  6. Lynnnn725

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    Oh - and prepare to live at the school this first year. I worked many 12-hour days. Still never got done and always felt like my main goal was just to survive. It's like you are drowning and trying to just keep your head above water.
     
  7. kcjo13

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    From the OP:

    "I have NO experience as a teacher, not even student teaching."

    "I kindof want to put on that I know more than I really do."
     
  8. mom2mikey

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    From my post: Certainaly some of what you learn to become a social worker would carry over to teaching.

    I have seen many who have gone through school and done student teaching who should not be teaching. Having a degree doesn't make one qualified to teach.
     
  9. skittleroo

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    It would depend what kind of social worker she/he was. You are assuming CPS? There are also social workers that work only with adults. We do not know.

    Even if it were with kids doesn't equate to what she/he needs to do in the classroom - totally different situation, circumstances, etc.

    Now I'm not saying her prior experience can't relate to what she needs as a teacher, but we are taking this from what the OP did say.......no idea what to do. That is scary for both the OP and her students. As a parent, this would chill me to the bone.

    I wish the OP the best - as long as this is something she is dedicated to,........ because she/he will have to be dedicate for this to be good.
     
  10. mom2mikey

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    She was the kind of social worker that worked for the district. I am assuming that means she works for the school district.

    I don't really want to get in to all the "what ifs" as it really doesn't matter. The bottom line for me is that I just do not buy in to the idea that a degree makes one a teacher.
     
  11. skittleroo

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    still say even if she worked for a district it is not the same. She is obviously not a certified teacher. Regardless I think its interesting that OP posted this 2 days ago and has NOT even signed back in since......Hmmm......
     
  12. mom2mikey

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    Hopefully she found some people somewhere who could help her rather than debate if she should be teaching or not. I would be more concerned if she replied to any of this in the middle of trying to get ready to teach.
     
  13. skittleroo

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    Well I certainly was not "debating if she should be teaching or not".

    In fact I said alt cert teachers (like me) can be just as great as traditionally educated teachers. However it has to be a love. I think sometimes advice/help should get the person really thinking about what he/she wants. I think that's doing a person a favor by not simply saying "it will all be great and you can do it". Sometimes we need a realistic view of what we are getting ourselves into. Then if she truly wants to be a teacher that bad - she will overcome and be great. That is what we want. However, many people think the job that teachers do is easy 8-3 work with summers off. That is not a realistic view. What is sad is when people have this view and proceed into teaching. I am sure we all see these people often. That is sad for the kids.

    Of course we know none of this because OP has never returned to even see the suggestions on the thread.

    She even said "THEY convinced me to go through alt cert". I am sorry but that doesn't sound like she is the one who wanted to become a teacher.
     
  14. kcjo13

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    As far as I'm concerned, there is no debate. Ultimately, the students going into the OP's classroom deserve someone who knows how to be a teacher. And wants to be. There, I said it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with alt certification. That's great. Those people might even have an even stronger desire to be a teacher, since most of the alt cert people have left another career to become one. But as skittleroo pointed out, "THEY convinced me"?

    My big beef here is not even with the OP. She deserves a chance to prove herself, I guess. The fact is, the district made a poor decision for its kids. Plus, enough of the general public views teaching as glorified babysitting. Situations such as this don't help that image. Anyone can do it, it's so easy, just take this test. I really don't appreciate my profession treated like a position that any warm body can fill.

    And as for the OP being offended, sorry. She came here and chose to word the post in a way that opened up a big can of worms. It could have been stated a lot differently if she really wanted help.
     
  15. novalyne

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    If I were the OP, I'm not sure I would come back to this thread, either. She came to this board to try to get help, and it's turned into a debate about alternative certification. Perhaps it would have been better to start a new thread if you wanted to discuss the pros and cons of AC, rather than hijacking her thread with negative attitude.

    She said she already worked in a school district. She said she was interested in teaching. When she said "They convinced me", I read that to mean that they talked her into doing the fast track alternative route, not that they talked her into teaching as a career.

    If the district wants to hire her, either they see qualities in her that they like, or they are desperate to find someone to fit into the classroom. Whichever the case, I applaud her for being worried and realizing that she has a lot of work ahead of her, and taking the initiative to seek out help on a message board.
     
  16. KinderCowgirl

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    I would have stopped reading it after the first page if was the OP. Instead of giving advice on what she can do to prepare; people are telling her she shouldn't be a teacher. If you have any specific questions Scared, please feel free to pm me-even once the school year starts and things come up (hey, us Texans need to stick together, right?):).

    The alternative in many of these cases where there are truly shortages is that classes have over 30 kids in each class. Is it better to have an atmosphere with someone excited to be a great teacher who doesn't have much experience or huge classes of kids that make it more difficult and stressful for each of them to learn?

    Most programs do training over the summer, she passed the tests so she must have some knowledge of pedogogy. They also have mentors who come in and observe, admins have to observe-much more support than most new teachers get.
     
  17. teach1st

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    Scared- I am hoping that you have found the help you needed. If you have more questions or need anything, feel free to ask.

    For other teachers on this board, I am surprised! Would you really want your students to act this way. Scared asked for help and instead you gave negative thoughts and more things for this poster to worry about. Shouldn't we be encouraging this poster rather than pass immediate judgement. Especially when the poster didn't ask to be judge. The poster asked for HELP!
     
  18. SPECIALEDMAN

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    I completely agree with your post! I hate it when someone reaches out for help and it turns into a debate over“whose offended” or “what makes you qualified”. :|
     
  19. SPECIALEDMAN

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    I agree with you too! Give me a break…Many of you should be ashamed. Sorry, but this is how I feel.:2cents:
     
  20. ZoomZoomZOOM

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    I can see both sides. I "tuned in to" this post because of the dire-sounding thread title and my first thought was, "Wow. That person has major balls. Let's check them out." :lol: I mean seriously - I'll be a 3rd year teacher, and I'm still frazzled about everything. So that was going to be my contribution to the OP's concern. But yeah, I'd be surprised if they poste again, so :p whatevs. She'll be fine and her students (eventually) will be fine.
     

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