How many admin?

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  1. Missy

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    The elem school my daughters attended had 900 students with one P and one asst P, but that school was the greatest. It helped that, with few exceptions, there was a very strong teaching staff.
     
  2. Em_Catz

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    In my state it doesn't matter. My current school has almost 900 students and we have 1 P and 1 VP. My old school had about 300 students and we had 1 P and 1 VP. The only thing they do take into account is if the school is really, really, small and rapidly losing enrollment, then sometimes they get rid of the VP.

    I feel like we need more admin considering the size of our school. Instead, you get non-admins (like our instructional specialists) acting as admins
     
  3. chebrutta

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    We have 1,900 students in 6-12. 1 P, 3 APs, 2 deans.
     
  4. Brendan

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    At my 6-12, non-religious private school with 1200 students we have a President, Principal (me), a VP for Academics, a VP for Guidance, a VP of Student Life and Activities, a VP for Admissions, and three deans.

    Keep in mind though at my school all administrators and guidance counselors teach at least 2 course per day and have a strong background as teachers. We spread out our teaching schedules so we aren't all teaching at the same time or to avoid peak times. For instance, nearly all my meetings and obligations seem to fall during the first or last period. I, therefore, do not teach then. Conversely, our Deans like to supervise lunches so we make sure not to schedule them during lunch block so they can attend all student lunches.
     
  5. gr3teacher

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    We have 700 kids, K-6. 1 P, 1 AP. Some larger schools have two APs, some have none.
     
  6. yellowdaisies

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    We have 800 kids, K-2. 1 P, 1 AP, 1 admin whose job is specifically behavior support. (I can't remember her exact title - it's a new position beginning next year - we have a lot of severe behaviors, so it was necessary.)

    My new school has about 350 kids, K-5. Just 1 P.

    YTG, why are they changing to K-6? I student taught in two different K-6 schools, and at one I student taught 6th grade. I tend to like the K-5, 6-8 split MUCH better. K-6 schools are pretty uncommon in NorCal/Central Valley aren't they? I always thought they were more common in SoCal, and even here they aren't that common. Will 6th be self contained or departmentalized?
     
  7. YoungTeacherGuy

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    I am honestly not sure why my district is making this huge change. What I do know, however, is that most (if not all) 6th grade teachers have transferred to other positions within the district because they don't want to move down to elementary in '15-'16.
     
  8. Peachyness

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    Wow, YTG! What a huge change. I was also curious as to why they made this decision. I'm thinking back to when I taught at some of the schools in your district and I can't imagine where they are going to create more classrooms for the 6th graders.

    Well, besides teaching in your district, I also taught in the nearby one where we did have k-6 in our elementary school. We only had one principal. I think it's definitely doable. I think for you guys, it'll just be a huge adjustments, it'll probably be a rocky start, and then things will fall into place.

    Not surprised to hear about the 6th grade teachers moving to new positions- I'm sure many of them are frightened of the idea of teaching at an elementary level. I bet many who do move may be surprised to find how much they enjoy teaching multiple subjects!! :)

    Oh, now that I think of it, CAN those teachers who are currently teaching 6th grade in the junior high level be able to teach at an elementary level with their current credential? Or will they need to apply for a multiple subject one?
     
  9. blake

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    The junior high I'll be teaching at this fall has 1450 students with 1 principal and 3 AP's.
     
  10. yellowdaisies

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    I wondered this too! If it's self contained 6th grade I guess some of the middle school teachers with only single subject credentials couldn't teach it?

    What an interesting situation.

    I can see why a middle school teacher wouldn't want to come down to elementary. I'll be teaching 5th this year, and if they somehow decided to move it to the middle school, I would be jumping ship as well.
     
  11. YoungTeacherGuy

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    The ones who have a single subject credential have all moved to 7th/8th grade already.

    Our 6th grade teachers for 2014-2015 are all credentialed for multiple subjects. Most are new teachers (since all former 6th grade teachers jumped ship).
     
  12. msmullenjr

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    Wow that's a huge change. My district has always been k-6, 7-8, and 9-12. My school has two SDC Pre-k classes and two Head Start classes so I guess we are Pre-k -6th. None of our elementary schools have VP. We used to for the larger schools, but they completely got rid of that position a few years ago due to budget issues.

    Good luck with the changes, I'm sure it will be interesting. I wonder how the kids feel about it.
     
  13. dgpiaffeteach

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    We are K-6 in one building and 7-12 in the other. I like the set-up a lot. I actually really like having the junior high in our building. It gives me a different picture as a teacher. It also gives us more flexibility since many of our teachers are certified 7-12.
     
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    750 students -1P and1AP
     
  15. leighbball

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    Our school is K-5 and about 450 students. We have 1 P and a dean of students (disciplinarian).
     

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