Discussion in 'Elementary Education' started by strummercohen, May 28, 2016.
May 31, 2016
I think that you are right. I will take your advice. Thank you.
I agree. Student teaching is meant to be a learning experience. The cooperating teacher should be modeling how to teach and you can learn from that.
Jun 4, 2016
Out of curiously I was wondering did you read my original post before you decided that you agreed with me? Also, have you successfully student taught without experience, if you have please tell me your grade level and the classroom that you worked with. In other words, tell me your experience.
Yes, thanks for your words of encouragement, that is basically what I am going through right now. I am in a graduate program trying to get a license in moderate disabilities at the grade 5-12 level. Almost everyone who is in my master's degree program is a paraprofessional (teacher's aide) or a teacher. According to my teacher, only a small number of people work in field's outside of education. So it can be intimidating to try to become a teacher near so many people who have more student teaching experience than me. But I hope that I can do it. Please feel free to share you story of successful student teaching without experience. The more stories I hear about this the better. I would like to hear what grade level you taught and everything.
Jun 5, 2016
For what it is worth, I would be very surprised if the paraprofessionals have any student teaching experience, unless they are individuals who have teacher certifications working as paraprofessionals. While they may have more actual hand's on experience working with the students with disabilities than you, they have no more experience than you do actually being the teacher and making the decisions, planning, and assessments. If they are paras with teacher certification, and have not taught other than as paras, they may have serious doubts about their own ST experience, since they ended up working as paras, not employed as the classroom teacher. I totally understand your anxiety, but if you are current on all required work, and capable of staying on task, meeting due dates, meeting goals, and turning in projects on time, you will almost certainly do well.
My son did his ST as an undergrad in Music Ed., but was not able to find a job in the field after graduation, along with many in his class. When he entered the M.Ed. program for ESL, he ended up having to student teach again, since he had a CEAS, but not a standard teaching certificate. The work load was significant, the need to stay focused and complete the work by the due date was always on his mind, and he had the course that met at night once every couple of weeks that was his cohort, and he had to factor that in. I can tell you he did get behind when he became sick, and he was forced to withdraw without a grade on his first attempt. That weighed heavy on his mind when he was in the second attempt. Even though he was not penalized for the medical withdrawal, it created anxiety that was stressful. I only share this with you so you understand that there is stress, and even though he had been through a ST experience before, it was in a different field, so different from the second ST. If the paras have had a ST experience before, it obviously was not in SPED, so they are essentially in the same boat that you are.
I did not have a ST teacher experience, as I explained before, but I have been successful as an AR candidate/teacher. I can tell you that the need to stay current and prepared for those classes while actually working full time was stressful. I witnessed AR candidates who had struggled with the program who did not remain in teaching, just as I have witnessed teachers from traditional programs wash out after the first year or so. Teaching and ST is an individual experience, and you will make it your own, based on what you put into it. No one else's experience, past or future, will be exactly like yours. Embrace that individuality. Make it your own. Hard? Yes, I think always. Doable? Yes, I think with diligence and dedication.
I hope you can truly embrace SPED, and feel that you haven't "settled" just to get a job. I once again went back an read all of your posts, and it just doesn't sound like your heart is in this, IMO. As the parent of a student who has changed job directions after not being able to find a job in the field he preferred, I have witnessed this emotionally taxing decision to try something that is not the first choice, wondering if it is the right choice for you. If depression is involved, and it often is, it is draining. I can tell you that I find SPED exhausting on a good day, so I am concerned when people choose it without experience, especially working with HS students. Do I think you can be successful? Yes. The better question, however, is "do you think you can be successful"?
I wish you well. Best of luck.
The vast majority of the student teachers I know in a K-8 setting have had no previous job experience in working with children. I know I didn't, and I don't feel it hurt me in becoming a teacher. You'll be fine, and I wouldn't worry about it. Just do well in student teaching and learn as much as you can about teaching through experience and from other teachers. Good luck to you.
Did you major in education as a college major? What level of education did you study (middle school, high school etc)? How did you find that you handled student teaching without classroom experience?
I observed my cooperating teacher, tried methods from my university education classes, and tried a few ideas from books of successful teachers I read. I had some good days, and some not so good days. Classroom management was the toughest for me. I found substitute teaching (which I did after student teaching) and ideas from books helped me the most in this area.
Don't feel you have to be successful in student teaching right away. You are there to learn to become successful. You will make mistakes. When you do, get yourself up off the ground, dust yourself off, and try again in a different way. If you work with your cooperating teacher and use the ideas from teachers in this forum, you'll be better off than I was. I didn't have this forum to turn to when I started.
Jun 6, 2016
Thanks for you insight. Would you be open to speaking over the phone if you had the time about your experiences? You could email me with your number at email@example.com with your experiences. Thanks.
Jun 10, 2016
If you're not interested in contacting me, by phone that is fine. I respect your privacy.But could you at least answer this question: did your son have any prior experience (volunteer/ internship) working with ESL students before student teaching?
strummercohen--You have received multiple replies on this thread from people who had no experience working with students before student teaching. Every situation is different; you cannot use the experience of others to decide whether or not you will be successful. Go into your experience determined to learn everything you can.
I understand what you are saying. It is time to put this thread to rest. Everyone has given me good examples of how they were successful at student teaching without classroom experience so thank you so much for that. At this point, I am just being redundant by continuing to ask all of these questions. So before officially retiring this thread, I would just like to thank everyone for all of their help for sharing their experiences. In the future, I am probably going to start a thread asking people for help with finding ideas for math and science lesson plans. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences with me! It did help me in a big way
I've noticed that this board pulls for each other. I'm going to pay it forward and do the same for you! Good luck!
I had no experience. I subbed a few days here and there, and I worked at an independent study charter school as a TA (obviously this had nothing to do with actual classroom experience, other than some interaction with individual students).
I was thrown into it after 3 weeks. Up until then I was observing the classroom and slowly taking over doing the warm up, doing some activities with them by the 3rd week of being 100 % responsible for lesson planning, grading, discipline, phone calls home, everything.
Even though I had no experience it worked out great and I learned a lot. It was hard, but worth it.
Aug 12, 2016
How did you handle the process of student teaching if you only had experience observing in a classroom and no experience teaching? What grade level did you teach? Please answer these questions of you can it would really help me a lot thanks
The MAJORITY of student teachers have zero experience teaching and have only observed prior to student teaching as part of their requirement to graduate & get a licence/certificate. Student teaching is their FIRST teaching experience.
Student teaching is when you learn. No one is expecting a student teacher to walk into a classroom and take over. The process will vary, but usually the ST will observe, plan for and work with small groups (perhaps a guided reading lesson to start), then gradually start to plan and teach in collaboration with the host teacher. Think of process of gradual release of responsibility we use with our students--in this case, the student is the student teacher.
Exactly! And we had two 8 week placements for student teaching. I did one in 2nd and the other in 6th. The ideas was that you gradually take over -- and fully instruct by weeks 6 & 7-- and then hand the class back over to close out. But I knew my mentor teacher personally (I went to MS/HS with her daughter) and actually requested that she take me on, so I got to jump in a lot sooner. She really worked with to guide me and fine tune my management and delivery of instruction. It was phenomenal! But her class was also amazing so it was a really easy transition. By the I got to my second placement it was testing season so there wasn't much for me to do other than help with test prep so my lessons were kind of 'meh', but I still got to experience 6th grade. Whatever happens... the good, bad and ugly... learn from ALL experiences and just be down for whatever happens. You have to be flexible and just roll with the punches.
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