Has anyone applied for specific posting then found out in interview it's different?!

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  1. pommom

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    Applied for co teach ela, found out in interview that it's co teach science too.
    I wouldn't have applied if I knew this. I know nothing about science.
    Anyways, I know I didn't get the job; I bombed it.
    It was the first interview I have been to where the principal wasn't there. I did see her walking around to her office while I was waiting. It made me think that they selected their candidate earlier that day already because mine was in the afternoon.
     
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  3. TrademarkTer

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    Yes! One time I went to interview for a HS math position, which was a good 2 hour drive away too, and when I got there, I learned it was for teaching computer science (which is taught through the math department). I would never have gone in for that, and straight-up told the principal I wouldn't be able to teach that. He said I was the third person that day to tell him that----so he was wasting his own time too!
     
  4. futuremathsprof

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    This is absolutely ridiculous and you should have been rightly outraged. That principal is very unprofessional for doing that. A 2-hour drive?! That means you wasted at least four hours of your time plus gas. I would have told off that principal.
     
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    It's happened to me more times than I can count. I've had an awful lot of jobs listed as full time that turn out to be part time, quite a few listed as one school that turn out to be multiple buildings (deal-breaker for me since I don't drive), and I think the winner was the one that posted as full time elementary (k-6) and turned out to be very part time and either PK-2 or junior high that also wanted me to work frequent weekends with no stipend.
     
  6. Master Pre-K

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    I think sometimes, the admin staff throws out a line, and hopes to get anyone who nibbles. The original job is filled, and they don't take down the posting. They have another job, but don't want to take the time and $ to put out a new listing! o_O

    IMO, they keep the old posting, thinking they are getting a 2-for-one deal. You think you need this job, and maybe they will promote you when something opens up. That simply means that will pay you to be an lunch aide, but they know you are certified and...they will ask you to sub and hope you forget to ask for the sub rate on those days.

    You will be the full time, floating sub basically. It's cheaper than the regular position, and sometimes - no benefits!
     
  7. bella84

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    I wouldn’t recommend telling off the other principal. A) It was probably HR who posted it that way, not the principal. B) He may have a job for you in the future that you just blew your chances of getting by telling him off.
     
  8. catnfiddle

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    One time I went in for an interview for a full-time high school ELA position. It turned into a part-time reading specialist position. I don't have a reading specialist endorsement. Part of me wanted to get up, tell the interviewer that I was sorry he wasted my time, and leave. It wouldn't have burned any bridges since I have avoided that school since then.
     
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    That's the beauty of the Facetime/ Skype interview. I don't have to waste any time or gas going anywhere. If it's a hard to fill position and they are hard up for candidates they WILL bend to your interview needs if you stress to them "I'm interested, but _____.'' I've gotten out of SO MANY in location/ face to face interviews because they needed me more than I needed their job. It's great. I don't mind going down for a FINAL candidate interview, if it's me vs. someone else that they're trying to knock out, but I refuse to drive over 100+ miles just for some 30-40 minute meeting where they are interviewing a handful of people. No thanks!
    I suppose the day of the interview (or before) you could call and confirm the details and position before wasting your time. I get that positions change as people shift around (as was the topic of another recent post,) but yeah. It's a total pain!
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  10. waterfall

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    Yes, having a sped license this has happened to me several times. My very first interview right out of college was 3.5 hours away, so 7 hours round trip. It was posted as a mild/moderate sped position. When I arrived, the first question they asked me was if I would be comfortable in a severe needs setting for students with emotional disturbances- 6 students and 4 adults. I said I was confused because I'd applied for a mild/moderate posting, and they said, "Oh, we filled that yesterday, but we figured we'd bring all of the mild/moderate people in anyway because there is a loophole in the state licenses where you can teach both." That very same day, I had a phone interview from an out of state district, and the first question they asked me was if I'd be interested in teaching EBD (emotional behavior disorders).

    I've also been called in for postings that were full time but ended up really being .5. Now I always make sure to verify the position when called for an interview, but even that doesn't always work. Last time I was interviewing, I interviewed for a gen ed position. They called me and told me I'd "come in 2nd place" for that one, so they couldn't offer that, but would I be interested in teaching in their emotional disabilities unit? I wonder if I would have really "come in 2nd" had I not had the sped license and they thought they could get me to work in their EBD unit.
     
  11. Master Pre-K

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    See, that’s what I said. Bait and switch.
     
  12. Master Pre-K

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    It’s a small, small world in education. You never know when you’ll see these people again.

    One of my professors was a P and she hand picked me to be a student teacher in her school! Wrong on sooo many levels and not allowed in my state. It ended badly when I wouldn’t be her free sub. :confused:(She knew I had my sub cert.)

    Turns out she was also a member of a major sorority where my daughter applied for a scholarship. My daughter made the final round. When I showed up at the ceremony, this woman made a face at me! Next thing I know my daughter was pulled out the competition over some made-up technicality!
     
  13. futuremathsprof

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    Wouldn’t it take a few minutes for the principal to send an email saying, “Oh, by the way, you will also have to teach a computer science class.” That would have saved the four-hour trip.
     
  14. bella84

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    Probably. But that probably wasn’t allowed by HR. In my district, HR arranges the interviews, not the principals.

    And, even so, I still wouldn’t tell off the principal.
     
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  15. pommom

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    Yeah it seems sped positions are always the most vague. The posting just says the school location and the following words "sped teacher". Seriously sped teacher can mean a variety of positions! Usually I will ask what type if they call me for interview.
    The interview I had Friday, I didn't specify on the phone because it clearly said co-teach Eng. Then I find out it's co-teach science and not Co teach English at all. It was resource Eng. I withdrew application when I got home.
     
  16. futuremathsprof

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    If it concerns the exact job description, then the applicant needs to be notified about everything up front. It is unethical, not to mention unfair, for hiring staff to not indicate the duties someone will have to take on when being interviewed. When I was hired at my current school, I was told I would have to be in charge of two school clubs, I would have to do carpool, and additional adjunct duties in addition to just teaching. Everything was specified beforehand and reiterated by the administrators on site verbally and in writing. Even before my interview, it was clearly specified in the job posting online. I don’t understand why that is so intricate for some people — those people being hiring staff.
     
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    I think there are a lot of unknowns as to the specifics of a position in many teaching jobs. Sometimes administrators know more than a posting lets on, but, other times, they don’t. I agree that they should notify candidates of those specifics whenever possible, but I understand that they don’t always know when they are conducting interviews. Sometimes, a lot of things are still up in the air. And, again, I would never want to sour a relationship over it. I may be fuming on the inside, but I’d keep my cool and be polite so as to maintain a good relationship should a future position come open.
     
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    Yes, I applied for an ELA position and at the interview was told that it was partly Sped. Just because they saw Sped on my resume they assumed they could interview me for a different position that I applied for (without telling me when calling for the interview).
     
  19. futuremathsprof

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    Normally, I would agree, but a four-hour trip plus traveling costs is ridiculous and unnecessary. I would have gone off if I knew I would never work in that district again.
     
  20. pommom

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    90% of the time it's the principal's secretary calling to schedule interviews, not HR. Admin put up a posting and put the bare minimum. They figure that putting too much info about the posting can hurt their chances of people applying.
     
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    That’s not how it works in my area, but I understand every district is different.
     

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