Grammar question

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  1. CanadianTeacher

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    I was teaching the use of commas yesterday and something came up that I've always been sketchy on. It's about using punctuation with quotations. Here is an example:

    "Take the dog for a walk." said dad to Jane.
    "Take the dog for a walk," said dad to Jane.

    Which one of the above would be correct. The quote is a full sentence, so I feel like I should end it with a period, yet that seems to leave the last part just hanging. In the second example, the comma keeps everything together, but I feel like the quote should have proper quotation for being a full sentence, not just a comma.

    Is this one of those things where both ways are commonly accepted? I know I can't use both the period and the comma, but I'm not sure which one is most appropriate.

    What do you think?
     
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  3. GlendaLL

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    I believe it is the second sentence with the comma.
     
  4. kimrandy1

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    yup, I concur. Second one, with the comma.
     
  5. Mrs. K.

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    As stated, it's the second one. The sentence doesn't actually end until "Jane." However, if the quote requires a question mark or an exclamation point, you do put that punctuation inside the quotes as well as a period at the end.
     
  6. CanadianTeacher

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    Thank you, that's what I thought, but needed to make sure.
     
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    I was going to say the second one too. Glad that it got cleared up!
     
  8. TeacherGroupie

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    Definitely the version with the comma.

    In the US, we also capitalize "Dad" - functionally, it's a proper noun.
     
  9. clarnet73

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    TG, resident grammar-queen, am I correct that when you use "dad" as in "Mom and Dad went to the movies" it would be capitalized, but if you said "My dad and I went to the movies," you'd use a lower-case d???
     
  10. TeacherGroupie

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    Dunno about the title, clarnet, but your intuition is correct.

    A functional title by itself can work like a proper noun, when it picks out one individual:


    Look, Mommy!
    The calculus teacher at the Catholic school is Brother James.
    My dentist, Dr. Bartlett, has a bald spot.
    Helen Keller always called Annie Sullivan "Teacher".
    I took Linguistics 51 with Professor Karen Kossuth.

    When the functional title takes a modifier of most sorts, however, or is pluralized, it ceases to be a proper noun picking out an individual and so should not be capitalized:


    The school auditorium was crammed with moms and dads.
    Alice really likes the brothers who teach at her school.
    MRSA resistance is a matter of great concern to doctors.
    Helen Keller had great respect for teachers.
    Karen Kossuth was a professor of linguistics until her untimely death.
     
  11. Upsadaisy

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    When you use mom or dad as their form of address (name), then you capitalize it as you would for any name.

    "Hey Sis, Mom said we would go to the store."
    "My mom said we would go to the store."
     
  12. Bogart

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    I've taught my students that if you can replace the word mom, dad, etc. with an actual name and it makes sense, then it would be capitalized.
     
  13. CanadianTeacher

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    The lack of capitalization on 'dad' was a typo on my part. I was focusing more on the punctuation. Thanks for pointing that out.
     

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