Grading Parents

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  1. a2z

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    If this type of post isn't allowed, please remove. I am not posting it because it is political, but because of the idea behind it. Parental involvement is a big issue in education. Part of this bill in Mississippi is requiring schools (teachers) to grade parents on the student's report card.

    www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2016/mar/11/amendment-hijacks-parent-involvement-bill-not-abou/

    "Rep. Gregory Holloway, Sr., D-Hazlehurst, believes that public schools are a place where children achieve great academic success. That's why, he says, when he was chairman of the Education Improvement Subcommittee, he did the research that helped mold the Parent Involvement and Accountability Act, which would "grade" parents in C, D or F districts on their involvement in their children's education."
     
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    I don't like the idea, but I like the general premise.
     
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    I agree. I appreciate the sentiment but would never want to be involved in practicality.
     
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    I agree with the others. I sure would like to find a way to make parents' lives a little bit more difficult any time I disagree with the way THEY approach child-raising though. They sure seem to make mine harder if they don't like the way I do my job.
     
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    I just saw this ona Sunday news program. I don't like it. I think we could all probably agree that home/family make a BIG difference in students' school readiness, performance, but giving parents grades is NO way to start a dialog or encourage involvement.
     
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    For those who did not, you should read the bill. It is also filled with things the state expects the teachers to do in terms of assignment of homework, teaching print and cursive, assigning one book a month with a book report, etc. Interesting.
     
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    I saw all that crap and hated it much more... but that's a whole different discussion.
     
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    I was thinking along the same lines.

    I was also thinking that it would make things so much worse for teachers.
     
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    I read the information and the first thing I thought was that I was glad I left public education. Another example of legislators mandating the work teachers should do without any knowledge of what it takes to be a teacher and run a classroom.
     
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    I'm wondering what some examples of parental involvement would receive good grades and what are some examples that would receive poor grades?

    For example, if you have a student whose both parents work 9-5, they can't volunteer for classroom activities without using personal days, which are precious commodities. How would a teacher rate the parent as being involved or uninvolved?
     
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    I don't really know where I stand on this. Looking through the bill, it seems like most of the things they're mandating are reasonable and/or beneficial practices. I do not know that writing a law to require it is the best way to bring about these changes, however. Where will the school find money to hire the additional personnel required, such as counselors and resource officers? Will the state provide additional funding?

    I also think it's interesting that the bill includes "Mandatory separation of students by gender". Is this a common practice in Mississippi?

    Finally, it seems peculiar to me that African American families are singled out in these sections:

    SECTION 2. (1) The Legislature recognizes:
    (c) That many African-American parents in this day and age, regardless of their socio-economic standard, are facing the same problems and that their children are out of control;

    (d) That substance abuse, Internet pornography, rude defiant behavior and authority issues are a few of the challenges African-American parents and communities face each day;
     
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    Is this meant to imply that substance abuse, pornography, and rude, defiant behavior are problems unique to the African-American community?
     
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    That was my assumption... erm... who thought that was a good idea? The statements would have been equally effective (and much less discriminatory) with just "parents" in the place of "African-American parents".
     
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    Grading hasn't worked to motivate students much and I highly doubt it would work on parents. I think there needs to be a better way to get parents into the game. Giving parents a grade seems like a lazy way to address the problem.
     
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    Is be confused about the point ... what do you do with those grades? Are they essentially a proxy for SES? Or worse (as ottterpop's link possibly suggests? - It's a different bill, but maybe someone just realized that blunt racism in a bill was a good way to get it shot down).
     
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    It was seen as a way to make parents accountable in some way even if it is by shaming with an "unsatisfactory" grade since there is no way for the school to make parents accountable. Accountable means that the parents need to adhere to whatever standard a school or teacher sets. That is different depending on the school just as acceptable student behavior varies from school to school and classroom to classroom.

    I guess the idea is if the parents are shamed they will change. I do believe that this only applies to failing schools.
     
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    But, this would probably cause parents to dislike teachers! (More?)
     
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    I am DEFINITELY NOT in favor of grading parents, but I would love to get them a little more involved in making an effort. At least two of my students have intercepted their report cards and other school mailings all year. Why haven't the parents contacted us to find out why we aren't sending them? In an effort to get through to the parents, I sent out a special mailing with envelopes not bearing the school logo. I'm hoping at least one or two parents will see that I'm reaching out and asking them for help. Whether or not they respond is another matter.
     

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