Discussion in 'Secondary Education' started by Caesar753, Jul 31, 2007.
Aug 1, 2007
How do you have the kids set up the folders? Where do they keep them? I like that idea
I have a question....What do you do when your students take the passed back work and (A) leave in in the room (B) throw the work away or (C) leave it in the "out box" for days?
I disagree that it is lazy. Grading papers is not hard, but it is time-consuming. I recommend establishing some rubrics that will shorten daily work grading time.
Wig, thank you for the links. I also like your take on things- very level headed. I hope I can aspire to be so organized.
Well, I teach in a small school so all the teachers on the same page. They have index sheets in their binder - one for each subject. Our copy machine punches holes and we have hole punches in the classrooms. When I pass out the papers, they file them in the proper place immediately (theoretically anyway - :lol: )
Thanks for all the great input!
I guess I didn't make things all that clear in my original post about a couple of points.
Of course, I would never NOT let a student see their finished work, my comments, score, etc. That is an important part of the learning process, and I agree that they need to know how they've scored and how they can improve.
I was mainly referring to work graded in class which is turned in for a complete/not complete grade. In class, the student would have seen errors and learned how to correct them, and could ask specific questions about the assignment. Since they're going over the assignment with the teacher, they will obviously know how they've performed and they will know their score.
The thing with my colleague is that after she collects these assignments to enter the complete/not complete score in the gradebook, she doesn't pass them back because students will plagiarize. They will give the worksheet with all the corrections to a peer who had been absent for the original assignment so that the peer can copy the assignment and present it as his original work. My colleague believes that by not returning these papers, students will have one less opportunity to plagiarize, and it will save on unwanted papers accumulating in the student's backpack.
Does this make more sense? Does it change anyone's feelings? (If not, that's okay! I'm just trying to figure out if this is a policy I should adopt.)
If you're going over the work in class with students- say a homework assignment that you gave and you're not going to put an actual grade in the grade book, why take it up at all for it to be handed back? I have a friend who only puts quizzes and test grades in her grade book and that's what gets passed back to the kids. I used to keep a homework log and just for my own knowledge keep up with who did and who didn't. That way if a parent called and said they don't understand why their child did so poorly, I could at least check the log and that usually explained things. But, I think I'd summarize that if you count/grade it, people want it back. It's their business what they do with it after it leaves you.
Well it gets collected because it does go in the grade book as either a complete/not complete score--basically as 100% or 0%. My colleague believes (and I agree) that it's not fair to grade on practice (which is what most homework is, especially in foreign language), but I do think that students need to be accountable for making an effort and for doing what is asked of them. If they try, they get credit; if they don't try, they don't. The place to shine is on quizzes, exams, and big projects where they can show that their efforts have paid off.
The big issue is that they're giving the corrected work to peers so that peers can use it to cheat.
I just can't think of a better way to curb that type of cheating.
Grading student work is part of our job. That it is also "time-consuming" is not a factor; we signed up to do the job, and to choose NOT to do all aspects of it is lazy. I stand by the word.
But if you do not pass it back your kids will not have it to study from.
Cassie, if the concern is that the work is going to be "recycled" later that day, another poster, Alice I think, runs a highlighter through it. You could also hold it for the day and return it the next day - too late to copy then if you don't take late work. Absent students could either be excused from the assignment as it was practice or given an alternate one.
That's a very easy (and probably obvious) solution! I can't believe I didn't think of it!
I've been told I have a flair for the obvious
Aug 10, 2007
I now understand better about her reasoning, but I still feel that it's just not a good idea. I'd pass them back and I like the idea of the folder for future reference. Kids who were absent can take a different form for the test (graded assignment from the book, essay on what is learned, etc would cut down on having to create double tests.)
Aug 11, 2007
Any assignment that is marked for completion (0-3 pts) gets averaged into one grade for the quarter. While it is not an authentic assessment, it is still part of the learning process. One grade generally will not make or break a final grade, but the kids don't know it. :lol:
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