Do you pass back graded work?

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  1. AHB

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    What is an interactive notebook?
     
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    AHB - click here :)

    also, if you do a search on the forum for "interactive notebooks" you'll come up with a number of threads
     
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    I pass back graded papers for several reasons:

    1. If it was important enough to assign, it is important enough to grade, and it is important enough to give them back.

    2. It is their responsibility to file them in their folders ( I give them time) I let parents know right from the start that while they can always check the grades on line, if they want to see WHY they got that grade, they only need to check their child's notebook.

    3. If I say an assignment is missing and they insist they did it, all they have to do is produce it as proof. There have been occasions where I have missed recording an assignment, especially if it was due to absences or late. If they can produce the assignment, I add 2 points for "inconveniencing them". :)

    4. I will base quizzes and tests on their homework. There are even times when I will tell them they may use all of their returned assignments on a test or quiz.

    We clean out all folders one week after report cards go home.

    I understand the rationale of saving them for conferences. But if there is something important enough to save, I make a copy of it. The only thing I keep are the tests, but only after the students have had a chance to see them and we have gone over them.

    I know some teachers who rarely pass back work, not because they are lazy, but because they get tired of seeing them stuffed in desks, lockers, binders, and on the floor ion the hallway, so they just put them in the recycle bin. I don't agree with not giving them back, but at least they have an ecologically sound reason. :lol:
     
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    I think all papers should be passed back. The whole point of assigning work is to assess learning, and without knowing what he or she got wrong, the student probably won't know how to improve.

    Taking a folder grade or having the students make a portfolio would make it easier for kids to keep up with them, and they would be accessible to the teacher.
     
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    Wig
    How do you have the kids set up the folders? Where do they keep them? I like that idea
     
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    I have a question....What do you do when your students take the passed back work and (A) leave in in the room (B) throw the work away or (C) leave it in the "out box" for days?
     
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    I disagree that it is lazy. Grading papers is not hard, but it is time-consuming. I recommend establishing some rubrics that will shorten daily work grading time.
     
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    Wig, thank you for the links. I also like your take on things- very level headed. I hope I can aspire to be so organized.
     
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    Well, I teach in a small school so all the teachers on the same page. They have index sheets in their binder - one for each subject. Our copy machine punches holes and we have hole punches in the classrooms. When I pass out the papers, they file them in the proper place immediately (theoretically anyway - :lol: )
     
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    Thanks for all the great input!

    I guess I didn't make things all that clear in my original post about a couple of points.

    Of course, I would never NOT let a student see their finished work, my comments, score, etc. That is an important part of the learning process, and I agree that they need to know how they've scored and how they can improve.

    I was mainly referring to work graded in class which is turned in for a complete/not complete grade. In class, the student would have seen errors and learned how to correct them, and could ask specific questions about the assignment. Since they're going over the assignment with the teacher, they will obviously know how they've performed and they will know their score.

    The thing with my colleague is that after she collects these assignments to enter the complete/not complete score in the gradebook, she doesn't pass them back because students will plagiarize. They will give the worksheet with all the corrections to a peer who had been absent for the original assignment so that the peer can copy the assignment and present it as his original work. My colleague believes that by not returning these papers, students will have one less opportunity to plagiarize, and it will save on unwanted papers accumulating in the student's backpack.

    Does this make more sense? Does it change anyone's feelings? (If not, that's okay! I'm just trying to figure out if this is a policy I should adopt.)
     
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    If you're going over the work in class with students- say a homework assignment that you gave and you're not going to put an actual grade in the grade book, why take it up at all for it to be handed back? I have a friend who only puts quizzes and test grades in her grade book and that's what gets passed back to the kids. I used to keep a homework log and just for my own knowledge keep up with who did and who didn't. That way if a parent called and said they don't understand why their child did so poorly, I could at least check the log and that usually explained things. But, I think I'd summarize that if you count/grade it, people want it back. It's their business what they do with it after it leaves you.
     
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    Well it gets collected because it does go in the grade book as either a complete/not complete score--basically as 100% or 0%. My colleague believes (and I agree) that it's not fair to grade on practice (which is what most homework is, especially in foreign language), but I do think that students need to be accountable for making an effort and for doing what is asked of them. If they try, they get credit; if they don't try, they don't. The place to shine is on quizzes, exams, and big projects where they can show that their efforts have paid off.

    The big issue is that they're giving the corrected work to peers so that peers can use it to cheat.

    I just can't think of a better way to curb that type of cheating.
     
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    Grading student work is part of our job. That it is also "time-consuming" is not a factor; we signed up to do the job, and to choose NOT to do all aspects of it is lazy. I stand by the word.
     
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    But if you do not pass it back your kids will not have it to study from.
     

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