Do you pass back graded work?

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  1. Caesar753

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    Do you pass back homework once it has been graded?

    I've been talking with another teacher at my school who doesn't return anything. Once it makes it to her inbox, the kids never see it again unless it's a special project and they request it back. Her reasoning behind this is that most students a) never look at the paper except to see the score at the top, b) she liked to save some work to use in conferences, and c) often give the paper to peers who were absent so that they can copy it.

    I did hand back papers last year in hopes that students would use them for review and practice. Unfortunately, it seemed that most of the papers ended up in the recycling box or shoved into the bottom of a backpack.

    What are your opinions on this subject?
     
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    I should add that this policy is only for assignments which were gone over in class, so the student should already know their score. It's not for quizzes and tests.
     
  4. Mamacita

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    I gave back the graded papers and required the students to keep them in their agendas. Sometimes I gave quizzes that consisted of: Find your homework from October 14, and copy the question and answer; this is Number 1. Number 2: find your pronoun quiz dated January 19, and answer question six. . . etc.

    This rewarded students who obeyed me, rewarded students who became somewhat organized, and penalized students who disobeyed me by not saving their papers.

    Eventually, most of the students started obeying me and saving their papers. No notes? What a shame. Next time, obey the teacher.

    I do have a question: why would a teacher NOT return graded papers? That seems so lazy and unprofessional to me. Parents want to see them, and a graded quiz or homework paper can then become a 'note,' and notes can be used on tests. If you want conference evidence, xerox the papers. Students deserve to see how well or how poorly they've done when something is graded and used to calculate their final grade.
     
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    I like this question, because the truth is the kids really just care about the grade and rarely refer back to their homework to study.

    I know that one of my Educ. profs always spouted off "Immediate and Specific Feedback"...which makes sense. I know that is especially useful when writing English/history papers.

    I'm not totally sure how to answer that because I hadn't thought about it much. I'd like to think, yes, hand it back...but how can I design my curriculum, so they kids will WANT to hold onto it for future reference?
     
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    Oops, I didn't see your second post until I'd already posted. Sorry.

    I still believe all papers should be returned, though.
     
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    I try for a turnaround time of 2 days... a whole lot more challenging once my own kids came along.

    My kids get everything back. I never re-use tests or quizzes. There's no reason for them not to get their work back. And a LOT of kids stop by extra help to go over a test they've blown.
     
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    When I return papers, I also pass around the latest greatest grade sheet for them to check their grades and my data entry. Their papers, with a grade in my writing/pen, is their proof of having turned in a paper. If I don't give them back, how can I hold them responsible? And of course, in my perfect world, they are looking at every comment and correction and learning incredible amounts of information that could not be learned in any other way.
     
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    I used to be horrible about returning papers. Then this year, I started this whole "Grade Day Friday" idea with my kids (I talked about this a little on an earlier thread). Anyway, Fridays are dedicated to going over their work for the week. I make it a point to meet with every kid and go over what they've done for the week. I saw a *huge* improvement in quantity and quality of work. Even if I didn't have time to closely grade every single assignment, just the fact that they knew I was going to hold them accountable made them take their work more seriously. Even on assignments in which I just gave completion grades, sometimes I would point out spelling or grammar mistakes. The kids made a conscious effort to fix those as time went on. I was amazed.

    Secondly, I have been in grad school for the last 2 semesters, and I will tell you nothing makes me angrier than a prof who doesn't bother to return my work. It's rude! I work hard on my assignments, and I need to know if I did them correctly. One professor I have right now hasn't graded a single thing, and the course is over on Friday. I'm horribly frustrated. That has also made me more committed to grading my students' work in a timely fashion. It's how I expect to be treated!
     
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    so...my question still stands in alignment with Cassie's concern...should we be passing all this back, and making them hold onto the stuff, if they MAY (maybe they will) not be caring about our comments on the papers if they're just looking at the grades?

    i dont know if that just made sense
     
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    As a graduate student, I didn't always review every last detail of the notes my professors left on my papers. Perhaps that was foolish of me, but knowing they were there for me to look over gave me ownership of learning from my mistakes. If I chose not to learn from them, and my prof gave me feedback that I could have used to do better in subsequent assignments - that was on me, not him or her. I think it should be the same for our students. They need that responsibility.
     
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    I hand everything back too. However, I have been known to keep conference evidence. But, I even give that back at the conference. I am taking an online course right now and check every day for any comments the instructor might have made about my work.
     
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    You're making an awful big assumption that most kids don't care about the work they've turned in. I don't think that's true. A majority of students care to know how well they did, and most look to see what they missed. I would think it's human nature. Perhaps the papers end up in the trash because they've looked at it, absorbed it, and don't need or don't want anymore input from the teacher.

    If it offends you (as it does me) to find papers in the trash, then do what I do. Pull it out and hand it back to the student the next time you see them. Tell them that it bothers you, and if they are going to trash it, then do it in someone else's room. I would then take the time to ask if they understood why they missed what they did.

    After all, you're modeling concern about education and show that you (the student) should value and care about learning.
     
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    I was the type of student who kept all my stuff just in case for all sorts of reasons- checking my grade, making sure my grades in general were correct, to reference material and some things I just kept.

    I like the idea of quizzes in regards to keeping up with stuff... especially used in addition with binder checks (or as binder checks).
     
  15. Brendan

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    I return everything. I had an English teacher who never returned anything and I hated it (and her for that matter;she was lazy, unorganized and booring). Personally, I think its pretty lazy never to return anything.
     
  16. ancientcivteach

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    Almost all of my student's work is done in their interactive notebook, so it HAS to be returned :) for my class to function. Because it is in the notebook it is not on the floor or in the trash, and the students have it to review for tests and to review past units (I give them warm ups and anything we've studied is fair game.)

    Loose work goes into an envelope in the back. Quizzes get glued in.

    Unit tests we review in class and then I file - although, I'm rethinking that - Mamacita, you're right, I could just copy the answer sheet for the "conference worthy" tests. Maybe glue those in the notebooks as well with the autopsy. Hmmn. Major projects are presented, graded, and photographed for the portfolio and then go home. Major pieces of writing are graded/shared/portfolio'd. (All classes are required to keep a portfolio.)

    Just my two cents, but I think that if kids don't see work back and graded, they conclude that it doesn't matter to you and thus to their grade. If it doesn't matter, they don't do it OR they don't worry about doing it well - too many other more pleasant alternatives.
     

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