Do I need to take the CSET if I took CBEST?

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  1. LisainCalif

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    Hello,
    I am hoping that someone knows the answer to my question.

    I graduated from USF teacher credential program in 1993. I passed the CBEST before attending my credential program, and have my card to prove it.

    I have a B.A. in Sociology as well.

    At the time graduated from my teacher training--I got a "preliminary credential". I had 5 years to make it a clear credential, but never did that, as I became a stay at home mom after that.

    I recently contacted USF, and asked what it would take to update my credential, and the cred. specialist said I would need to take computer, health, and mainstreaming classes. I am prepared to do that, and plan on doing so soon.

    I also asked him if I would need to take any new tests, and he said he didn't think so, because I passed the CBEST--and I got my credential before many of the new regulations. Is this true?

    I would appreciate any help you could provide. I am currently working in a school district as both a sub and a teacher's aide for a special education class, and I love it.

    Lisa
     
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  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Wow. Good question. You might want to doublecheck the USF credential-wallah's answer with the credentialing people at your local county office of education - I have a hideous feeling that you might be falling into something of a gray area here.
     
  4. UCLACareerChngr

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    I wouldn't think the CBEST would matter one way or the other, but I agree with TeacherGroupie...interesting about what would happen if you let the preliminary credential expire...do you have to go back to ground zero? Certainly a LOT has changed since 1993...what subject was your credential in? And, so you didn't ever teach in a classroom at all? Definitely need to check on this as it would seem to me as if you might have to do some work here...plus I would assume that now they will require you to do BTSA, especially if you never taught back in 1993...

    Have you checked the status of your credential? You can check it here http://www.ctc.ca.gov/lookup.html. Might be worth a look to see if they even have you in their system.
     
  5. TeacherGroupie

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    CBEST is still good: that score lasts for life. UCLA's made some good points, and I think the suggestion that you look up your credential is excellent.

    I hope you don't get a hideous surprise - but if there's one in your future, better to know now than later, no?
     
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    Thank you for taking the time to reply:)

    Yes, I am still in the California teacher "system". I actually applied for an emergency credential last year (and was granted that credential). I did that so I could sub, which I did do several times last year.

    This year (starting in August) I landed a job as an Aide in a special education class. I really love it! I work with many kids with special needs there, but was chosen to primarily work with one student with Autism. I have found that this is a real strength of mine, which I never knew before. I wish I could teach special education, but--it would take much money and courses to get to that point, so I will probably focus on just elementary education.

    My credential was in elementary education--no specific "subject". I always wanted to teach kindergarten, but would be happy with any grade in elementary school.

    The credential specialist at my university told me he didn't think I would need to take any new tests, but I am just not sure.
     
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    I'm not sure either, and that's why I recommend going to your county office of education for a second opinion.
     
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    Thanks--I just found the one for my county online. This is exactly what I needed. I didn't know if there was an easy answer for this question, and it seems like there is not--it has to be specific to my particular timeline of when I graduated and took my classes originally. My case may be different because my credential expired for a few years before I re-newed it.

    I will contact the office of Education for Contra Costa County on Monday.

    I appreciate your help.
    Lisa
     
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    It's also the case that districts take their cues as to what makes a job candidates Highly Qualified (in the NCLB sense) from their COE, not from the local universities.
     
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    That makes perfect sense to me. That is probably why the credential specialist at USF couldn't tell me for certain either way. I wasn't really sure which way to turn for verification on this, and now I have a direct path.
    Thanks a lot for your assistance.
    Lisa

    P.S. I just saw your post to me on the special education board, and I will be sure to ask about that program as well. I see that there is a college near me (St. Mary's) that has an internship program associated with the mild/moderate special ed credential--so perhaps I could ease into a job like that. Certainly if I had my choice, I would want to work in special ed rather than general ed.
     
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    For autism, I think it might be that you need moderate/several not mild/moderate - but don't quote me, and do ask people who actually work in credentialing and in special ed.
     
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    UPDATE:

    I wanted to come back to update my findings, so that this thread may help others.

    I wanted to thank Teachergroupie for helping me so much. I did as you said, and called my county office of education. I was lucky to get a credential specialist who was able to give my many answers.

    Since I passed the CBEST already, I don't technically need to take anymore exams. I need to take the three courses that my University recommended to get my Clear Credential. I may need to take the CTEL (BCLAD) in order to get a job in certain districts, but that is up to the district. I also have the option of not taking the test, but instead doing 12 units of classes. She said that some districts will hire you with the understanding that you have a certain amount of time to complete those units.

    I have looked at the sample tests for the CTEL, and think with some studying, I should be able to pass it. I easily passed the CBEST when I took it several years ago, but the CTEL is quite different--but doable in it's own way.

    Thanks again for your assistance.

    Lisa
     
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    You're welcome, LisainCalif.
     
  14. UCLACareerChngr

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    Congrats, it's amazing and probably very relieving to find someone who knows the information, right?!? Amazing.
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    I should add that there's a thread or two on CTEL in the Other Tests subforum.
     

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