Did admin do enough?

Discussion in 'General Education' started by MikeTeachesMath, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. catnfiddle

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    I would ask for a meeting with the student and the teacher who referred the student to the program before allowing him back into the program. Clear the air but set boundaries of what is appropriate.

    I'm glad you didn't take a spill because of an impulsive move by a kid who was acting out. You could actually turn this into something positive if you choose, mostly by letting him know he didn't peeve you to the point that you won't work with him. That being said, I would totally understand it if you asked that student be barred from your program.
     
  2. Reality Check

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    :yeahthat:

    "Go Blue!" you have more posts than I have fingers and toes to count on where I say to myself, "She's my hero!" ;)
     
  3. MikeTeachesMath

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    Just saying, I would sooner change my profession than accept Go Blue's school culture as the norm. That's obviously not what the culture is at this school anyway.

    I'll definitely get in contact with guidance.
     
  4. czacza

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    Hopefullythe week off gives him time to reflect and shape up!

    If he continues such behaviors, ask your guidance counselor to schedule some time with him. You might even start some documentation for I&RS committee ( not sure all schools ave..intervention and referral services...it's a committee that makes suggestions regarding teacher concerns)
     
  5. gr3teacher

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    Last Wednesday, one of my students threw a pencil at a substitute teacher and hit her in the face. The same student has roughly 15 documented incidents of physical violence against students, this year alone.

    He's gotten two days of suspension, total. His punishment for the pencil incident? He spent lunch in the principal's office. They played Jenga.
     
  6. AdamnJakesMommy

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    All I can say is:

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Nothing. Just make the eek face.
     
  7. daisycakes

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    Hahahaha. I laughed out loud when you said all they did was suspend him. A student threatened to kill me if I marked him tardy and all he got was a lunch detention. A week long suspension is very generous to you.
     
  8. daisycakes

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    Also, on the topic of pregnancy, a student told a pregnant teacher at my school he would throw her down the stairs to "kill" her baby. He got a half day suspension. Later, the teacher was fired for demanding suspension, among other things. Admin told me after the incident he blamed her for "calling him out" in front of his 7th grade friends.
     
  9. HistoryVA

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    At my school, sending the kid out with security over this would have been frowned upon, but I would have sent him to another teacher's classroom for the rest of class (I have a teacher buddy with whom I already have an agreement on this policy). However, I would have written a referral and the kid would have gotten 3-5 days suspension, depending on how that admin viewed the name "gimpy" (as just insulting or as bigoted speech). Wanting more than 5 days would be too much.

    Last year, I had a 6 foot tall junior try to force his way through 2 security guards to hit me. He got 5 days and was removed from my class. That's pretty standard without contact.
     
  10. vickilyn

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    I know they are kids with immature brains, but bullying goes both ways. We bend over backwards to protect the students from bullies, but sometimes it feels like the teachers are "at will punching bags" for students to take a swipe at. I understand OP's post all too well.
     
  11. hbcaligirl1985

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    I'd sooner quit my job then ever and I mean EVER work in a school that didn't care about the well being of their teachers or the babies they carry in their wombs.

    If you can tolerate and even love that school environment as an educator, more power too you. You're a better person than I am. But to me, I say, and excuse my language, but f**k that. We don't get paid enough to be abused or threatened by the students.

    OP: A weeks detention was fair, from the looks of what some of our fellow educators are posting, it could have gone very differently. But I would definitely start documentation. :hugs:
     
  12. Go Blue!

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    So every child that does not listen to their teacher's directions, calls them "gimpy" and takes a swipe at their crutch deserves a week long suspension? Even when considering it was a MS, who we know can be immature, irrational and do things like this in the heat of the moment.

    I guess you expect expulsion if a student curses at you ...
     
  13. gr3teacher

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    Taking a swipe at somebody's crutches is kind of a serious thing. If the kid had managed to connect, he would have caused serious injury. There's a young lady in my grade level right now... because of her condition, if somebody were to kick her crutch and she fell as a result, hip replacement surgery and leg amputation would both be potential (albeit somewhat unlikely) results.

    Kids will do stupid things, but there's no excuse for something like that. Expecting more than a week suspension might be unrealistic, but it's not something that should be brushed off the way you are brushing it off.
     
  14. MissCeliaB

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    I think a week's suspension sounds right. I would hope that the counselors would be meeting with the student regularly, anyway. It's policy that any of our students who are suspended out of school meet at least once afterward with a counselor. Many are put on behavior plans or "check in" plans.

    Probably at our school this would have resulted in suspension pending a hearing. I don't think expulsion would have resulted from the hearing, but the hearings usually scare the kids (and their parents) into realizing that severe consequences exist for actions that go beyond normal immature behavior and into the realm of criminal behavior.
     
  15. daisycakes

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    Are you new to teaching? There is no way what happened should result in an expulsion! I understand you are upset, but expulsion means you go to a county school with a bunch of young criminals and your educational life is essentially over. The following things are expulsion-worthy in MS students (I taught in one for years): kid sells drugs in school, kid threatens another with a knife they bring to school, sexual battery (paying for favors in a bathroom), repeated physical threats, getting more than 75 referrals for defiance, getting in multiple, serious fights, etc. Calling someone, even a teacher, a name is not worthy of an expulsion.
     

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