Care to join my Rum, Tums, and Depression Club???

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  1. rookieABC123

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    I think we should start a Rum, Tums, and Depression club!! :D
    Seriously though--somedays I feel like this is all taking a huge toll on me and know so many of you are feeling the same way. So...let's make a toast to all of those schools that turned us away--it's their loss!! Let's put that all behind us and move on to bigger and better things! Finding a teaching job is like trying to find your soul mate...it didn't happen overnight, it didn't happen with the first person that came along, and usually it happens when you least expect it. Chins up People!!
     
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    But wouldn't it be nice if it did happen overnight??!! I'm keeping my chin up though. I have an interview on Monday and will most likely have one the week of the 30th with the district I LTS for half the year at. So I'm keeping fingers crossed and reminding myself that even though I sent out my resumes over a month ago that does not necessarily mean the position has been filled. I've learned lots of PA districts are very slow in the hiring process. I'm sure that's true for other states as well.
     
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    I know that in the end the right job will come along for me. Its just hard b/c you would like to know right now where you have a job at, be able to plan all summer for your room and curriculum.

    Must...think...positive...thoughts!
     
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    Just don't drink that rum alone! I arranged a girl's night private wine tasting last week and it felt so much better to complain with others who are having totally different issues. At the very least, I was glad I walked to the gathering.
     
  6. jw13

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    Cheers to all the members of the "Rum, Tums, Depression" Club!

    I will get a teaching job! And if I don't the rum will help me live in a world where I Believe I am. :)
     
  7. rookieABC123

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    :rofl:
     
  8. sadundercover

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    I would love to join, as I am about to rent a billboard with my resume plastered over it. I left corporate to teach, the market is flooded here, now I can't get back in corporate. :(
     
  9. Master Pre-K

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    my life, in a week...

    First my brother treats me like an interviewer - doesn't want to see me, sends me emails, and when he calls, talks like he's interviewing me for a job, instead of asking about me and the rest of the family. Taking him out of my will.

    Second, condo may be going up in smoke. No votes for new condo board means building could go on auction block. Hmmm..so I get money? I get to move? I have no home, and no job? Lovely.

    Third, the job that I thought I had, but never called me back after they xeroxed my life away in a thick file, finally sent back my paperwork after I screamed, yelled, and faxed letter to Fair Labor Board saying that I thought I was a ghost employee!

    Fourth, I went to Wal-mart, had two interviews, and drug test...and...now what??

    :confused::confused:

    I guess they are too busy doing inventory to call me to start work to do inventory...

    Well, I scraped up enough money to pay the car note....I can sleep in there..

    Last but not least...thought I lost my cell phone...after tearing up house and dumping everything out of the car...I heard it beeping..

    in kitchen

    found it in my lunch bag...

    right, you're wondering - why does she have a lunch bag packed, when she doesn't have a job?

    :help:
     
  10. Zelda~*

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    Drink with me, to days gone by
    Sing with me the songs we knew
    At the shrine of friendship never say die
    Let the wine of friendship never run dry
    Here's to you
    And here's to me


    I dunno why, but Les Miserables always seems to soothe the depressed soul.

    I'm back from vacation. On the trip down I didn't have much cell service, but when I drove through a pocket that did have service I discovered a voicemail from the principal I interviewed with and seemed to hit it off with.

    He hired a guy with High School experince. :|

    Soooooo, I'm in the depression club.

    Ah well. We'll muddle through.... :)
     
  11. TeacherNY

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    haha how fitting Zelda! Here's to all the les miserables! :D
    I have a job BUT sometimes it drives me to drink (although I always say i'm going to go home after a bad day and mix up some cocktails and then I never get around to it because I'm so busy)!
     
  12. FootballGal

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    I am so joining the club. lol. Sitting here and waiting for a job to open is killing me!! I want to be decorating my room or at least planning for it. I have tried to do some things but it's hard when I don't know what grade I will be teaching, if I get a job at all. It's awful!!
     
  13. okntx2002

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    Do we have any Vanilla Rum? I had to interviews last week and did I mention I have interview phobia? School #1 said they needed someone with more 3rd grade experience and School #2 said, "We just love you but we don't want you to get your hopes up and think the job is yours BUT we don't want you to leave thinking you didn't get the job". So exactly what do they want me to think? Can you please pass the rum now?
     
  14. MissFrizzle

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    Pass the rum, ladies- I"m in ( another year)... In fact, I think I can qualify as the prez.:p:D
     
  15. rookieABC123

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    You guys are too much!!! It's really fun reading your responses! It brightens up the mood!:2up:
     
  16. Master Pre-K

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    It's not you...it's me!

    "It's not you...it's me...no really..."

    Nothing you said or did
    You are perfectly qualified, in fact...uh..a little too overqualified
    I could really use somebody like you
    It's just that...
    I just don't think that we would be fair in keeping you from other opportunities.

    :huh: (What?)

    oh, you wouldn't understand...I'm sorry, have a nice day


    Really!?

    Let me try to guess.....

    You are hiring your friend, and this is just a waste of my time.
    You are hiring your cousin, and this is just a waste of my time.
    You are not hiring anyone, you know you will make one teacher take both classes and have a 2/3 split.
    You are secretly looking for new ideas and lesson plans. So you make everyone write one for the interview.
    You just want practice interviewing.
    You have to interview at least one _________ (insert your race/sex/age group here.)
    You are going to hire somebody you don't like, so you can pay them less.
    You'll probably realize you made a big mistake with the other person, and will call me you 3-6 months from now, so really hope I don't find anything.

    No, I do understand! Thank you, for reminding me I only need one yes, and I must get a lot of no's until the right opporutnity comes my way!



    :whistle:
     
  17. Chef Dave

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    << School #1 said they needed someone with more 3rd grade experience and School #2 said, "We just love you but we don't want you to get your hopes up and think the job is yours BUT we don't want you to leave thinking you didn't get the job". >>

    How long ago was the 2nd interview? Did you CALL THE SCHOOL BACK? Did you send them a thank you letter, thanking them for the interview and expressing your continued interest with employment?

    Sometimes you have to be proactive in looking for a job. Calling the school back, or better yet, dropping by in person to check on the status of your application does a couple of things.

    1) Dropping by will remind the school that you exist.

    2) Dropping by will also demonstrate your continuing interest in the job.

    Best wishes!

    Chef Dave
     
  18. Master Pre-K

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    Nice to meet you Chef Dave...

    I might point out, most of us are seasoned professionals in job hunting...

    Therefore, the OP just wanted to give us a place to let off steam.

    In otherwords, IMO...I think this is good advice, but may be more useful in other job hunting threads...

    We are not really trying here...

    we are just complaining...

    ;)
     
  19. smalltowngal

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    I know I've done everything that you have mentioned, and I'm sure the OP has too. That's just it. We all have done everything we can think of and that has been suggested on this site to land a job. Its just not working out, so we need a place to vent...this being it!
     
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    Chef Dave...thank you for the advice.

    Unfortunately, the reason for most of the complaining on this thread is because many of us have done exactly what you suggested, to no avail.
     
  21. okntx2002

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    Thanks for the advice Chef Dave. The interview for job #2 was only last Thursday so it may be too early to call but I will call this week. I don't mind calling and hounding the schools..heck I think Ive called every school within an hours drive.

    I just cant bring myself to go up there to find out the verdict...what if they say no and I cry right there in the open? Then I would be forced to beg and maybe they would take pity on me.

    Well I'm just here to vent and drink rum...:woot:
     
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    Haha, that is so funny. I'd love to actually hear someone say that during an interview. Of course you would have to scratch that school from your "Maybe I Can Get A Job Here" list.
     
  23. Master Pre-K

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    Once, I got an email by mistake from a director! Guess she thought she was sending it to her boss instead! It said, "here is a resume for the Teacher position. I am sending it to you. I interviewed her once before, but didn't think she wanted to leave her current job!" :confused:

    What!? Well, why haven't you called me to find out! Obviously I wanted to leave if I was out interviewing. What a lame excuse!

    I truly beleive the job hunt is like the dating game. Nobody will ever really tell you why they picked somebody else. I and seriously starting to think they are afraid of us, liking when we break up with somebody, and we will become a stalker, or something like that!

    Dear Ms. Master Pre-K,

    Thank you for interviewing for the Lead Teacher position. Unfortuantely, we have decided to pick smalltowngal instead! She is a great person, and we really like her! We wanted to be the first to let you know, so you wouldn't waste time calling us, or looking up her name when it's posted on our School Board meeting minutes.

    Good luck in your future endveadors.

    (What the heck does that mean anyway?? Am I climbing mountains or something!)

    grrrr.... tossing a box of envelopes at smalltowngal!!! :haha:
     
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    :lol: MPK!!! I know that you were joking! And I wouldn't mind the envelopes if I really do get an offer.
     
  25. rookieABC123

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    I love the "sorry we are looking for someone with more experience" Well, if I never get hired anywhere because of experience how in the world am I supposed to get experience????????!!!!!!!!!!!

    Then, you get the "oh, you have too much experience we will have to start you out higher on the pay scale!!! Love that one too.:mad:
     
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    I'm in! I just got back from vacation with hubby to find six rejection letters in the mail. Tommorrow is one district's "job fair." Come on people! I just want to teach.
     
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    I just got an email rejection which I only received because I called to ask about the interview results. Whatever. Another school district is probably unwilling to completely reject me until the end of the summer, which is when there will probably be a mass exodus of more teachers who found something better to do.

    After a great talk with my husband over some very nice Cote du Rhone, I've come to the conclusion that if I wind up subbing again next year, it's far from the end of the world. If anything, I'm now up for the long term jobs with my experience. I was in tears saying goodbye to the kids where I sub the most (there are no openings there), so seeing them again in the fall wouldn't exactly break my heart.

    My MIL the CPA would DEFINITELY be happy to see me available to work another tax season, something I couldn't do as easily while teaching full time. Don't mind me, I'm silver lining hunting!
     
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    You all really have my best wishes. I know what it is like. I gave up and now I am going into an entirely new field. After what happened to me last year and seeing the disgusting politics that rule in the schools, I could not do it anymore. It was very hard and it still is. My best friend is a teacher and like a bunch of other people I know did not have to even interview. She just found out she is getting a state of the art classroom and a big raise. So, it is hard to know that what separates me from her and the rest is my lack of connections. She is a fabulous teacher, but I never got the chance because I did not have an "in." Between the lack of interviews and the fake interviews and the rejection letters with grammatical errors, I had it.

    Amazingly, today I had an interview in an office and FINALLY someone mentioned my awards and high GPA. Only one of the schools' admins. did that.Yet, I know people who are teaching who partied all through school and barely graduated and/or are teaching for the wrong reasons, yet because of their relatives, they got right in. I know that sounds like sour grapes, but you know, it is what it is. It is really unfair what goes on. When I see people here struggling to find work, whose love for teaching is just so evident in their words on here, yet they cannot get in to a school, it breaks my heart. There are things I have seen that have made me sick. Maybe it is not true in all places, but here, it is many times. How else to explain how I have seen 2 women in flip flops and tank tops get hired? One of whom was complaining during the interview about the salary. And one who flat out said she wanted to teach to have her summers off and to be home by 3 everyday. :confused:

    Vent over.:sorry:
     
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    Sad, I empathize with you.


    It's not you...... and I do beleive all of what you are saying. I've also seen it firsthand..... don't let it get to you. I think this fresh start will do you good. You will see that you can shine anywhere, even if administrators don't give ya the time of day.

    :hugs:
     
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    Everytime I see a teacher on TV for some crime--I think how did these people get teaching positions in the first place??? We should start holding administration or school boards liable for who they hire. I agree that the whole process needs to change.

    I am interviewing with a school right now. I go back in next week-yay! I don't know a single soul in this school so I don't think my chances are very good. They do seem to be interested in me--time will tell. It's going to take some Divine intervention!!!
     
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    Well, I need some malibu rum and coke please. I didn't get the position I interviewed for so back to the drawing board.
     
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    Awww I'm sorry STG...Im in the same boat with you. I'll help you row when it's your turn to take a drink! I must have called 20 schools today to check on positions and of course, they're already filled. What did they do with my application??? Did they call me and I mistakenly thought it was a bill collector so I didnt answer???
     
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    don't you have caller id??

    I memorized the bill collector's numbers
     
  34. Master Pre-K

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    misery loves company, so I'll post this here too...

    For the first time, I am waiting...hoping for the best offer. In the past, I would send out a zillion resumes, and go on a million interviews. Funny thing is, everybody wanted to hire me, but I didn't like them..or they messed over my paperwork, or they were just stalling, and kept my paperwork. I must be a ghost employee at least a dozen child care payrolls in Chicago....

    Now, I guess I am getting up in age, and not rushing. I am hurt, upset, rejected, and broke, but I am still sitting around in my pjs! (well, I brushed my teeth and washed! :rolleyes:) I will not leave the house if there is no check in my mailbox to deposit. I called the last interviewer on last Thursday, and she said they sent my resume to main office, just waiting for approval. I guess I will just wait.

    And...people are attacking me. My own people. And I am starting to crack under the pressure. Nobody except my friends know I am unemployed. Maybe things just seem worse because I know I am broke. Maybe it's best that I deal with them now, before I get a new job. It's easy because it's summer and people expect me to be off. Make it by living off my savings.

    I think we tend to get desperate and rush into the wrong things, because we feel we must have something (or someone??)

    I am going to wait on the Lord. He will send me what I need this time. I will not send out another resume until this last job calls back and says, "we decided to choose somebody else, or we have a budget cut and can't hire you now."

    I think all this running around is making us feel worse than what we are.

    only drink I ever really liked was a strawberry margarita and...

    Bacardi light and pepsi..

    I'll take that now, please

    and now I know why everyone was carrying that cute little purple bag when I was a kid..

    Crown Royal..

    :unsure:
     
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    Someone from Indonesia called me today.....:confused: I did not pick up. I looked up the id.

    I think I need a Tums. Got a job where they don't want me, but are giving me a chance (no one else would take the pay because they had experience). Goodbye teaching, hello law firm.

    THANKS MissFrizzle!!!!!!! I need the confidence boost.:hugs:

    Rookie,

    My idea to change the teaching hiring process is to have an outside agency be responsible for the hiring and firing, all HR things. The staff can have no affiliation with the schools and will be monitored. There has to be a way to do this. The applications will take into consideration honors, GPA, etc. Everyone will have to interview-no giving away jobs. No holding jobs for someone's kid, like they do in a school district near me. No parent retiring and the job going right to his kid----same district near me. No calling up your uncle and having him give you the job over the phone, like someone I know. There will be some kind of independent process that is FAIR. I mentioned this to someone who got in through a connection and she almost fainted.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    MPK, :hugs:
     
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    Count me in! If anyone's wondering who drank all the rum, it wasn't me. :whistle:

    I relocated-- 500 miles from my husband (he's staying back home to finish law school)-- to find a teaching job because there is absolutely nothing where I lived. If jobs do open up, it's much like what sadundercover writes about. I am having one heck of a time finding a teaching position. I've sent out nearly 40 resumes (and that number is going to continue to climb) and have had one interview. I was a top contender for the position, but, alas, it went to someone else. It kills me when I check this district's website for updates and see the positions have been filled. I spend time writing cover letters for each school, drive to the schools I am very interested in, make phone calls, and nothing comes of it.

    The district where I first worked as a LTS jerked me around so badly that I no longer have any interest in working for them. I feel like this cruel person is holding my favorite treat in front of me, taunting me with it, sticking it under my nose, etc. "Lilmisses, would you like a treat? Well you can't have it!" Then it's jerked away from me and given to someone else.

    I think I need an IV filled with rum.... :p
     
  38. Master Pre-K

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    lilmisses..welcome! Sounds like you want to travel like a pet on a plane....

    crated and sedated! :p
     
  39. TeacherNY

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    :rofl: Good one!

    Now, did someone say something about rum?
    I have 2 more days of school before my (short) vacation. Save a few bottles for me.
    I got scratched and kicked by a student today.
    I'm sure tomorrow won't be any better. Better keep some tums on hand too.
     
  40. okntx2002

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    The bill collectors try to trick me by calling from different numbers or that could just possibly be different bill collectors. I cant afford caller id if Im going to help buy rum. :p
     
  41. Master Pre-K

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    scratched? :eek: Worker's Comp!!! Stay home and fax in a dr report! they can't fire you if you are disabled!
     

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