Being Denied Snacks as a form of Punishment

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  1. mom2my2cuties

    mom2my2cuties New Member

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    Hello, I was just curious on what everyones opinion is on using snacks given at snacktime as a form of punishment for unapproved behavior such as talking in class, not paying attention, etc?
    Thanks :)
     
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  3. LCteacher

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    I would think long and hard before taking away the child's snack.

    Ask yourself the purpose of the snack and does taking it away fit the 'crime'?

    Is it an added treat or a regular part of their diet each day? Does this child require eating 4-5 small healthy meals a day? etc.

    If the snack is a 'bonus' treat for everyone and is something special...maybe you could deny it as a punishment. If it were sent from home by the parent and was a daily occurence, I wouldn't take the snack away.
    I may modify where the child could eat his/her snack. For example, at snack time, but at a special table or not with his/her best friends for part or all of snack time. After which you'd of course talk with the child about why he/she couldn't have snack with a friend and that perhaps tomorrow he/she could.

    If it's in the heat of the moment and the child is pushing your last button, don't take it away. Give yourself a break. Anything done like this in the moment may come back to bite you in the rear end. (Definitely not worth it.)
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    Good luck. Thanks for asking the question.
    LC teacher, Virginia
     
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    mom2my2cuties New Member

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    Hello, and thanks for replying. Actually I'm a Teacher's Aide and have been very concerned about the Teacher doing this, the snacks are supplied by the parents, and this has happened on several different occasions none related to snack time such as throwing food for example. Your thinking seems to be on the same track as mine.
    Thanks again for your reply :)
     
  5. JenPooh

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    Wow, this brings back memories. I posted about this type of thing awhile ago when my little neice had this happen to her for something completely minor.

    If it is a scheduled snack, meaning something that happens every day that is part of the program, then I would NEVER use it as a punishment. Most likely then they are getting funds for the food, etc. which would make it illegal. In WI we have laws about that as well. If it's something like a special treat (ice cream, cookies) that was brought in or if the snack is normally not part of their day to day activity, then I would feel comfortable using it as a behavior tool if the situation called for it. Kids who don't behave do not get special treats! Why should they?

    To me, it also depends on what the behavior is (going back to "if the situation calls for it"). My niece got it taken away because she was arguing with another child...BIG DEAL! She is 6...kids argue. Don't adults argue too? That is human nature. Now, if she would have hauled off and smacked a child or something, then that would be different.

    Punishment should fit the behavior and should be realistic as well. If a child is arguing over a toy, which my neice was, then her punishment should have been she couldn't play with that toy for the rest of the week, or something similar. It shouldn't have even involved the snack.

    Just my two cents.
     
  6. LCteacher

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    Yikes. Am I reading this right...the teacher takes away snack as a punishment for something else that happens in the day...not related to the snack itself...kind of like she's taking away recess? (Also one I wouldn't do.)
    It sounds like a tense situation. Does anyone else see this besides you?

    I have kids on ocassion that look forward to snack because they were in a hurry and didn't eat breakfast. (As a result, they eat snack during morning work as they need it as long as their work gets done.)

    I hope this gets better for you and the kids.

    LC Teacher
     
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    What grade is this? Is this daycare, public school, etc?
     
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    Never mind...brain lapse. It's in the K section (duh, Jen!).
     
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    This is a public school, and snack time is something that is usually everyday, and the snacks are being brought in by the parents on a rotating schedule. My son is in this class too. Last Friday the class had a St. Patricks' Day Party and I rented a cotton candy machine to make a bag of green cotton candy for the every student in the class. After one student got in trouble for being in the hall, I was instructed to give everyone a bag of cotton candy except the one student who had got in trouble (which broke my heart). My thinking with this, and with the snack time occurences is that children (especially little girls) are being taught that food can be used as a form of punishment which is something these days I think is EXTREMELY unhealthy, with the way some little girls are so worried about their body image at a young age. I also think from a parent's viewpoint too, that it is unfair to take something that a parent has volunteered or donated to the class and use it as punishment, when I donate the items I do so unconditionally so I think the items should be distributed in such a manner too.
    Thanks for the replies again :)
     
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    The teacher seems like she's going way overboard. Like she is expecting them to never get in trouble and be perfect. Kids will be kids. Does she give warnings at all?
     
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    Somehow I doubt the child learned anything from this experience except that the teacher is a meanie. I think in terms of positive discipline, not punishment. It seems to me that if the problem was about hallway behavior then making the child be first, or last in line, or required to stand with the teacher in the hallway would be best suited to this situation. If the child intentionally stuck cotton candy in someone's hair, then losing the food might be appropriate.
     
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    It is wrong to withhold snacks from them. You can get in trouble for doing that if it is part of your daily program. However, you can withhold a "treat", but I would not recommend this unless the kid has nearly killed someone or stolen the superintendents car.
     
  13. Play to Learn

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    How could anyone with hold food from a child. Has that teacher ever read the book "A child called it" maybe someone should buy it for her. That poor man was starved as a child and the only time he ever ate was at school. His mom use to make him vomit the food back up if she caught him eating. This maybe the only meals this child is getting. There are some mean parents out there too. I would be really mad to find out my child was being denied snack at school. And he is a 3rd grader, misbehaving or not there are other ways of disiplining children. And as for the cotton candy issue, I would have told her I could not do that (not give him any) If anything I would have sent it home with him in a bag. Thats just not right. You are messing with emotions, can you imagine how that little kid feels about his self. Sorry the whole issue just makes me mad.
     
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    Let me start with this I have not read all the responses previously posted, (just scanned them).

    If we use food as a reward or punishment we start the kids on a bad habbit and food disorders.

    however if it's a situation like the kid is throwing food, take it away.
     
  15. Mamacita

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    More proof positive that I could never, never, never teach the tiny ones, because I would take any kind of treat right out of a naughty kid's hands and not feel the least bit bad about it.

    I'm not cruel. I know kids are hungry, and I know there are parents who are trash. I saw them at conference, with cigarettes in their purses but no socks on the child.

    I always kept a jar of peanut butter, and jelly, and bread, in a drawer in my file cabinet for kids who forgot their lunch or were just hungry. And every afternoon I fed my Advisor group, because their lunch was at ten thirty which is absolutely RIDICULOUS. I also cooked breakfast for my ISTEP kids every year because there was NO WAY a child was going to take a big test like that on an empty stomach in MY room. Please don't think I'm Evil Personified.

    But I did not put up with any kind of deliberate disruption, either. Misbehave in my room and you got to sit there and watch all the other kids while you got none. And a big fat neener neener to the rotten kids, while I'm at it.

    Come back after the others are gone, Rottenness. I'll fix you a sandwich. I ain't no witch. You won't get anything else, though. You could have, but of your own free will you chose not to. Sorry. (not.)
     
  16. kinderkids

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    There is a difference between a "TREAT" and a snack. Cotton candy isn't a snack........
    Treats are just that, something special, earned, out of the ordinary. Cotton candy fits under that category. Treats can be withheld if it is appropriate to the situation at hand. I have no idea what led up to this, so I can't say whether or not I think it was appropriate. Had he been warned that this would be the result if a certain behavior continued? Had he been acting up all day, and this was the last straw, etc.. If that had been the case, I would have sent it home with a note attached telling mom and dad why little sweetie didn't get to have the treat with the rest of the children.
    Snacks on the other hand should NEVER be withheld from a child at this age. There is a big difference between the two.
     

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