Behavior Problems: Your Mindset

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  1. Ms.Holyoke

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    I have been thinking a lot about how to maintain a positive mindset in spite of behavior problems. My student teaching has been difficult because of all of the behavior problems that we have. Apparently, the class of 8th graders that I have has been a nightmare since 5th grade. One thing that I am working on is keeping a positive/calm mindset despite behavior problems. I know that I can't change my students' behaviors, but I can change how I react to it. I can handle the kids' behaviors in the morning but I have been alone with kids the past two afternoons (I never teach afternoon block since it's a different subject, but I was subbing for my mentor.) I'm having a really hard time maintaining a positive mindset and staying calm despite these issues.

    Here are a few things that happened over the past few days:
    -A student telling me to get out of his face--which I ignored
    -Two girls refusing to come back into class.
    -A student running around the classroom with his hood covering his face--which we had to ignore
    -Students repeatedly walking out of class without permission. I told one student I would have to call his mother, and he said "you're just a student teacher, she won't believe you."

    Today, we were watching a movie in science as I subbed for my mentor. The good news is that the kids were quiet during the movie and we didn't have kids walking in and out of class like usual at the end of the day. Kids did not sit in their assigned seats and were on their phones the whole time. I asked two boys to move back but they refused. Two students refused to take their headphones out. It was obnoxious but I tried not to let it affect me and I remained calm. I kept/enforced the expectation that students were quiet during the movie, which they were and their "reward" was recess for 15 minutes at the end of the day. I had a conversation with one of the students at the end of the day who refused to move seats which went alright. However, I am really trying to keep a positive mindset and not let it affect me at the end of the day. My student teaching is almost over and I know my school next year has much better behavioral structures than the school I am in now. However, I am sure I will have some behavior problems and I am really trying to improve my own mindset and not get so frustrated.
     
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    For the "my mom won't believe you" student, call them out on it. Call mom and see. Yes, you might actually get that response from Mom, but chances are that Mom will believe you. I've very rarely had a parent take the "I don't believe you" stance when I've called them or talked to them in person. Kids try it hoping that you won't bother calling.

    Kids who can't keep their hoods off their heads don't get to wear hoodies. I've had kids who had to wear non-hooded sweatshirts because they couldn't handle the hood. They can't wear hoodies at DH's school, so they don't have that issue.

    What's the school phone rule? Ours can't have them out during class, so they are confiscated and sent to the office if we see them. Same at DH's school.
     
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    I did text the students' mother (as I have done so before.)

    Students are not supposed to have their phones out but the expectation is not consistent/not enforced. Because we were watching a movie (that had no academic relevance) I think the students felt like they could.

    I honestly could never work in a school like the one I am student teaching in. I'm just trying to find a way to stay positive and not let it affect my mental health.
     
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    Behaviour problems are going to be in every classroom. Have a proactive attitude towards classroom management. If your lessons are engaging then they won’t get up to no good. If you model respect to them you earn their respect and they tend to not be rude or defiant.
     
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    It’s a different ball game when you are subbing. When I sub I always start the lesson telling students this is what Miss Smith left for you to accomplish this lesson. Just to let them know that they have to answer to their teacher if they muck around. If I sense that the class is particularly difficult then I add in my own incentive that if all students finish by a certain time then we watch a movie or something at the end of the lesson. This is also proactive in my opinion
     
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    This is not a foolproof thing though. For the general population of students, yes: engaging lessons mean they just don't have time to misbehave. But there's also that small percent of the student population that just doesn't fit the general rule. I had many engaging lessons last year where 95% of my class was excited to participate and they were actively engaged. Then there was that one kid who just refused to do anything.

    Some kids just don't or can't follow directions and do what's expected; there's a 2nd grader at my school now who becomes defiant and shuts down with something as simple as "Please put your hood down inside." He just gets in this pattern of defiance that I'm actually not sure he CAN get out of on his own.
     
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    There is some diagnosed stuff going on for sure. It took every bit of energy to stay calm and patient with him because I knew that at some level, he really couldn't help it. But another teacher and I had to half drag him up the stairs to the recovery room because he just kept escalating over tiny things, and then he straight up refused to walk up the stairs.

    Engaging lessons are just not the miracle solution people want them to be; some kids will still act out no matter what for a host of reasons.
     
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    I think there is definitely something to be said for engaging lessons. Probably a good Tier 1 strategy, if you think in such terms, that might even help some of your Tier 2 behavior problems. The idea is to narrow down the kids who need more. Not a magic bullet, but something that can be considered a fairly respectable strategy.

    My personal difficulty with it is when a fair number of the class isn't your typical pretty okay behaved kid. I have a class that I would guestimate to be at least 50% attention-ish issues (including actual paperwork, parents' explanations, and my own observations). I do have to tap in deeper than a standard engaging lesson, and I still have about six kids I have to almost constantly redirect.
     
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    I had a note like that. Covered 3rd gr. The kid had a study divider on his desk. This teacher left a two-page note on what to do if he did x, y or z. Then she finally said, “Just send him next door!”

    Well, this little kid came in. Didn’t look anything like Bart Simpson to me. He didn’t do anything but twist a rubber band back and forth.:rolleyes:

    He did his work, 10 min. later, messy, but it was done.

    Kid was a bit hyper, but no biggie. I’ve seen far worse.

    I suspect regular teacher couldn’t deal with him at all.
    Yeah, that kid needs a one-on-one. I can’t work in those conditions. You are constantly replacing and repairiing items. Your room looks like a train wreck. Everyone is on eggshells. You document all this madness and admin. keeps saying, no discipline...re-direct the child.:mad:
     
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    I think what really gets me is that ALL these kids are wizards with computers!! I mean from age 5 to 15, they have never seen a electronic gadget they couldn't master. They stop wiggling in their seats long enough to tell me what's wrong with my Smartboard! I say no library or computer lab today, and they have a 1/2 hr tantrum!!

    In fact, computer time is the ONLY thing that will make them sit still and concentrate, besides eating. How is it that a child who claims he doesn't understand, needs help, can't do this or that, will miraculously hop in a seat for computer time, and blow up buildings, crash cars and save the world?? Does that not take organization, (I can't remember what to do?), ordering (I lost my stuff!), reading and math (I can't read this!!! Is this the right answer, is that right?) Yeah, you never hear a peep outta these kids unless the system is slow or crashes. Actually, some will get up and start diagnosing the problem! (Your modem is loose, and we don't have a good wifi connection.)

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    This is the reason that more teachers should embrace the potential of educational technology! When infants are given iphones and tablets to keep them occupied, it's no wonder that they're all addicted to technology by the time they enter school. For years, I refused to use computers with my students, choosing to believe that they were a total waste of time. It wasn't until every teacher at our school was given a laptop to use (no expectations) that I experienced the magic of multimedia instruction. The real clincher for me was the day I discovered the mesmerizing effect digital lessons had on even the most incorrigible students in the school! If I were were able to come into your classroom today, you'd be able to see first-hand what I mean.

    The problem with using technology other than for games is that most educators have not been trained to create their own digital lessons. Teachers are for the most part unfamiliar with instructional design that involves the active use of highly-synchronized animation effects, images, sound effects, narration and text to facilitate the comprehension and retention of new material. So, one possible work-around is to give students the liberty to write their own hi-tech stories using Powerpoint or one of many cartoon apps - let them show you how it's done!

    Someone who throws a tantrum to get their way will make an immediate 180 if told that a technological learning opportunity awaits anyone who demonstrates proper readiness. Been there.
     
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    Since you're in a literacy specialist program, I thought you might like to see a presentation that I created to teach figurative language to a class of second graders who were mostly ELLs. After I read a figure of speech to the class and showed them the corresponding animation, students were asked to think about the three choices and select the one that they thought best describes the intended meaning. What's missing is the lively discussion we had about each one. Students had little difficulty understanding the different figures of speech that I heard being used among themselves after just a few days. They had so much fun using their new language skills! I would love to receive your academic critique.
     
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    Many of us Baby Boomer teachers became victims of the Digital Divide. We were the last ones on the block to get cable, and they finally killed antenna TV. We were forced to get a converter box so we could watch free TV.

    We refused to get cell phones and email accounts and now we have to wait weeks for in person appointments and snail mail and we’re penalized with a “paper statement fee”.

    You can’t even apply for a job without downloading your life history. Even after you are hired some jobs force you to use your own time, computer and ink for “onboading”, eliminating the HR rep and making you print and submit your new hire package.

    Technology isn’t a thing to learn....it’s part of our lives and here to stay.

    If only the Baby Boomers could get cheat sheets and a crash course in technology, we might not avoid computers, but actually utilize them in our classroom and genuinely embrace them.

    Is there an app for that??
     

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