Bathroom Breaks/Nurse

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  1. K_luv30

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    OMG! This is my first year teaching 2nd grade and these two little issues are driving me nuts!!! :banghead:

    First, going to the bathroom...What is your procedure? At first I was taking the whole class, and although they're well-behaved, it just seems to take so long! I do set a timer and set goals, but just the whole process is a pain in the 'you know what.' Then, I decided to let them go two at a time during Morning Meeting, which was disruptive and confusing. Finally, I told them they could go as long as the pass was available, and I wasn't teaching. Well, so were the other 2nd grade classes and they got in trouble by another teacher for playing around, even though they knew the first complaint I got would be the end of this privilege. Now, we're back to whole group. The administration won't let them go during lunch/recess because the bathrooms aren't supervised, and they can't go during specials because they only get that special once-a-week. Now what? I have some students who need to go literally 5 times on some days! Any and all responses are appreciated!

    Next, the nurse! I'm amazed at how much they ask to go to the nurse! It's funny when they do go, they come back miraculously cured. I don't want to dismiss the fact that they're tummy hurts or whatever, and it's usually because they're hungry or something, but it's getting ridiculous. I don't want parents to get upset because I didn't let their child go to the nurse, so I'm not sure what to do. I don't have children, so I'm having a hard time deciphering when it's necessary to send them to the nurse (besides the obvious emergency). Any thoughts?

    Sorry this is so long, I just wanted to give a clear picture (hopefully) of my situation. Thank you in advance!
     
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  3. tchnzfun

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    Nurse-I have a class doctor. It's one of our jobs. Students will come to me and I will tell them to go to the real nurse if I think they are really sick. If not, I send them to the class doctor so they can be "treated."

    Bathroom- I have a basket with their names on clips. They can go once in the morning and once in the afternoon. They put their clip in the basket from the outside of the basket when they go. They know they are only allowed to leave the room twice. Last year I had a student who needed to go more often, so I just made him an extra clip. They don't ALL need to use the restroom and it wastes instructional time to take them all. If certain students are caught misbehaving in the bathroom, they have to be escorted by myself or another adult (principal) to use the restroom which means they can only go when I am available. (Not very often).

    Good luck!
     
  4. MissHunny

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    Nurse- Mostly I just ask the kid what's wrong, give them some sympathy and a quick treatment (get a drink, get a tissue, relax your foot, here's a bandaid, etc.) and more on. Most just want to "be heard" and are happy with a bandaid. I don't send many to the nurse, unless I really think something is wrong.

    Bathroom- our bathroom signal is crossed fingers. I hate hearing "Can i got to the bathroom", so the signal eliminates that. If I nod "yes" the students leaves the bathroom pass on his/her desk. This allows me to quickly see who is gone and where they are. Plus, taking it to the bathroom is gross IMO.

    When he/she gets back from the restroom he moves a magnet (that has his name on it) to the sections on the magnetic bookshelf that says either "1 time" or "2 times". This is how many times they have left to use the restroom in that day. 2 is the limit, unless it is an emergency. Students also have opportunities to go bf class, at lunch, end of the day.

    Works great for me!
     
  5. teachermegs

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    Bathroom: I send them by tables. I give them a time limit and if they are back in that time they get a point. We go after specials, when I am reading a chapter and after computers when they have an assignment. At the beginning of the year you have to train them to use it at certain times, I have to train myself.

    Nurse: My teammate says it is time to go to recess, then all of the sudden they are fine. I ask them if they can wait. They usually say yes and forgot about what is bothering them.
     
  6. tiffharmon2001

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    I agree with the PP, most of them just want to be heard and have a little sympathy from the teacher (it's also one on one attention). I used to keep "magic lotion"(that clear sparkly hand gel) when I taught first grade. When they had one of those "boo-boos"-the ones that are so small you can't even see it-I would give them a squirt of that to rub on it. I've heard of people using smelly lip gloss to put "kisses" on it.
    When they truly needed a band-aid, I would also ask them if they needed a kiss on their "boo boo" (or whatever you want to call it). If they said yes, I would "kiss" the band-aid (not really but they thought I did) and stick it on real quick so the kiss didn't fall off.
    I went through LOTS of sparkly lotion and band-aids at first, but once the new wore off it was better.
     
  7. MandyandRobert

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    Bathrooms: We have only had the first day, but this is how I did it. I have 3 laminated cards made for each student with their name on it. I put a library pocket on the side of each desk to keep them in. If they need to use the restroom during class (when I am talking), they need to give me a card. When all 3 cards are gone, they lose a recess for every time they need another card. On Friday afternoon, I will give a ticket to each student for every card they have left. Then we will have a drawing for some small prizes. It allows for 3 "emergencies" each week.

    Other than when it's not during my teaching time and they ask to go to the bathroom, (ie: journal time, snack time, reading time, etc...) I have my teaching assistant take them and they have exactly 5 minutes to go the bathroom, get a drink, etc... If they aren't back in 5 minutes then they lose a ticket. I have them sign out before they leave, and they are only allowed one "break" per day. If they take any more, then they have to hand in a card.

    We do have bathroom breaks before our morning snack/recess, before lunch, after recess, and before afternoon snack/recess. In my opinion, that is PLENTY of time to go the bathroom, get a drink, etc... Since I only have 22 kids, I take 11 kids at a time, and my teaching assistant takes 11 kids at a time, while I stay with the rest of the kids while they read/work on homework, etc...
     
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    Bathroom - I also have a nonverbal signal, and I try to let kids go whenever possible if they won't miss direct instruction. I know a teacher who has used the "just take the pass if it's available" procedure with great success. Maybe the second graders at your school would benefit from some teach-to's about bathroom procedure. At our school it's: GO FLUSH WASH LEAVE

    Nurse - If a child complains of not feeling well, I ask "Do you need to go to the bathroom or get a drink?" If they persist and I don't think they're really sick after feeling their forehead, I'll explain that I if I send them to the nurse without a fever, there's not anything the nurse can do for them. But...they're welcome to go during their recess if they'd like! I agree that most kids just appreciate a little sympathy.
     
  9. RainStorm

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    K Luv,
    This is always a problem at this age. Obviously, you want the little ones to be able to use the bathroom when they need it -- you don't want accidents or someone to be miserable and uncomfortable -- but the truth is that 90% of the bathroom requests are "me toos..." I saw her go, so I want to go too.

    Sometimes you have to be really hard core about it -- without seeming insensitive. This works for me:

    --I tell the kids right up front that I give them 2 bathroom breaks, and that other than that, they can only go one at a time, and one when I'm not teaching. I also tell them they must come back quickly. (That is my "fair warning.")

    If they ask me more than once in a day (and let's be real -- once a day plus 2 bathroom breaks, plus they are probably asking once at lunch and once during specials.... it is enough) I simply say "Of course, but you'll have to make up the five minutes during recess (with a really sad, regretful face.) That will be so sad..." And at recess, I hand them something that they "missed." (Even if it is just reading something on a sheet.) If they really have to go, they will go and the missing part of recess will be an afterthought. If they are just going to play, it usually will stop them.

    Second phase -- "THE CALL" (ring ring) Mrs. Smith? This is Ms. Rain, Susie's teacher. I'm sorry to bother you at home, but I'm very concerned. It is just the beginning of the year, and Little Susie is missing so much class because she is constantly asking to use the restroom. Is there a medical problem I need to know about? There isn't? Hmmmm... I wonder if maybe you need to take her to the doctor then -- I'd hate to find out she has a bladder infection or something -- she just has to go so often -- much more than any of the other children -- and I'm just concerned. I also wanted to explain why she'll have so much makeup work to do tomorrow night. If it is too much, please feel free to do it over the weekend instead. I just don't want her to keep getting behind."

    The nurse issue -- "The nurse is doing screenings today honey, so if you aren't bleeding or barfing, go sit down. If you don't feel better in a few minutes, come back up and see me." If she comes back up in a few minutes -- "Okay, hon, well I think we need to call Mommy and let her know how much class you are missing going to the nurse. If we call her right now, maybe she can get off work tomorrow to take you to the doctor -- I'm sure he can give you a couple of shots so you will feel better right away! What's that? You feel better? Oh, okay -- go sit down, then."

    I told you all before -- I'm evil.
     
  10. Sarge

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    With my first graders, I call them on it -- "The only reason you want to go to the bathroom is because she asked to go."

    The look on their face is often priceless, as they ponder "how did he know that I was really lying?"

    I've also cured ailments by using the "I'll call your parents so they can take you to the doctor to get a shot" trick.
     
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    For the bathroom, I would suggest going as a group at least once in the morning. That way everyone gets one free trip. Beyond that, I pretty much do what Miss Hunny does.

    For the nurse, if they complain of a stomach ache or headache, I usually say get a drink of water and put your head down for a few minutes. If they still feel sick in 5 minutes, I'll send them down. For bandaids, ice packs, etc, I deal with it in my room.
     
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    Nurse - If they seem fine, I tell them to go get a wet paper towel and a drink of water. They come back fine. I sometimes tell them to be sure to tell Mom and Dad when they get home so they can go to the doctor.
     
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    Bathroom - The children are allowed to go 3 times per day. Once in the morning session, once after lunch (group trip), and once in the afternoon. They must raise their hands and ask. And if they ask as soon as we start a new task (trying to get out of working) I make them wait until the end. I've yet to have anyone pee their pants!

    Nurse- I feel their heads and if they are not feverish, I don't let them go. The nurse just sends them back anyway. I don't comfort much, but tell them just that - the nurse will send you right back to class. I took on this tough stance after I had one student skipping to the nurse's office after PE class. He said, "I was hit in the groin, so I'm going home now," and smiled all the way down the hallway.
     
  14. TishaTeacher

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    It's my first year in 2nd grade too, and I have the same issues! Seeing the responses here, I guess I'm being too strict with the bathroom breaks! Most of the other 2nd grade teachers try to get to the NO bathroom on class time point. Currently I give every student one ticket at the beginning of the day. They can use this at any point to leave the room once. If they don't use theirs I put it in a cup and draw one for the treasure box. But I still have several students who use theirs and need to go again, and I've been making them move their clips. Maybe I should try two tickets? But my students can use the bathroom during recess and lunch and we encourage them to do so!

    As for the nurse, I don't send kind too often, but I have been shocked by how much they complain about headaches, stomach aches, eyes hurting, etc etc. I used to teach Kindergarten and they weren't as bad whiners as the 2nd graders!
     
  15. K_luv30

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    I appreciate all the extremely helpful responses! I've been utilizing several of these tactics, and it's been much better (and I'm less annoyed). Thank you sooooo much! :D
     

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