Bad Sub!

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  1. microbe

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    What have subs done in the past to make themselves no longer welcome in your classroom?
     
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  3. JustMe

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    Slept.
    Texted the entire time.
    Made fun of a student's disability. (Oh, yes she did.)
    Change my plans with no reason given.
     
  4. czacza

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    Disregarded my carefully written plans and directions

    Didn't manage behaviors well...too much yelling

    Left room messy...didn't have kids neaten up (end of day procedures listed in my plans )

    Decided one of my kiddos could move ahead to a higher level in reading:dizzy:

    And one who decide my whole class was ready to measure to quarter and half inch despite my directions to only work on nearest inch measurements...yeah...I had major reteaching to do after that one.:mad:
     
  5. Kat53

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    Told the office a few of my refugee students were acting like "a bunch of crazy Indians."
    Erased the spelling words on my white board and created her own spelling list.
     
  6. MrsC

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    Left me a note explaining how she had changed my plans to make them "better"
    Let students work together on an assessment
    Told the class that he wasn't going to do the math activity for them to do because he didn't understand it, so it "wasn't any good"
    Demeaned and embarrassed one of my students (I was in the next room and overheard)
    Spoke to the students about topics which made them uncomfortable (recent example--the end of the Mayan calendar and what it meant for humankind)
     
  7. Myrisophilist

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    :eek:
    Haha, this one is kind of amusing. Were the words harder or easier?
     
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    Not use the sub plans left on my desk, complete with everything that was needed. Instead moved all of it to the floor & took worksheets off of a shelf.

    Using racial slurs.
     
  9. Joy

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    I have not yet had a bad sub but I've heard that there is one in our building. She apparently disregards the plans and lets the kids decide what they want to do. The first grade teacher told me that she subbed for her once and she spent the day singing songs with the kids. The kids then decided that they didn't want to go out to recess but wanted to stay in the room. She let them! The regular teacher returned to related arts teachers complaining at her for the bad behavior of her class while she was gone.

    This sub has also sort of rubbed me the wrong way and I don't even know her. I took my 3rd Graders on a field trip about a month ago and had a half-day sub. I got back from the field trip before she was done teaching my last class so I decided insteady of popping in on her, I would stay in the workroom and grade some quizzes that I needed to get done. I had anticipated getting back before the end of the day and left my work in the workroom to do without interrupting my sub. This "bad sub" (not my sub) came into the room and saw me working and started making fun of me saying that I was too serious. I don't even know her!
     
  10. Darkhorse

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    Threw all the student workbooks against the wall.

    I came back and all the kids' math workbooks were in a heap against the wall. Not stacked.... a giant, messy heap. I asked the kids what happened and they said the sub got frustrated (I can't remember about what) and threw them all against the wall. :crosseyed
     
  11. FarFromHome

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    I had a sub who disregarded my plans and did her own lesson instead. She also came in short sleeves (during winter) and apparently hadn't read my note about recess duty. She was late too (it was a half day sub). I asked that she not sub in my room again.

    We had another sub at my first school who sat by the kids during an assembly. All of the rest of the kids could see her thong majorly sticking out of her pants for the whole assembly....I don't know how she couldn't feel the breeze! It was really unprofessional.
     
  12. Caesar753

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    I've experienced many of the things already listed here.

    The most common offenses are: sleeping, watching DVDs on a laptop at the back of the room, allowing students to work together and/or use outside materials on a quiz (despite my explicit instructions that students work independently and without access to outside materials).
     
  13. FarFromHome

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    I wanted to add...most of my subs have been great. I appreciate everything they do!
     
  14. terptoteacher

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    I've been teaching for awhile and in all those years I've only had two subs I put on my "rejected" list. One because she didn't understand English-couldn't speak or read it. The other never subbed in my room, but would talk in the staff room about how no one would hire her, how the neighboring school district said she was inept. I called her Eeyore because she was so full of doom and gloom. She even said that she couldn't get a job because she is Asian. Um....I'm Asian...I was sitting right next to her when she said that.
     
  15. Linguist92021

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    During the 8 months I ad my own classroom, I had subs twice. The second time it was a 2 day deal.
    During these 2 days:
    - desks and books (almost all of them were destroyed by tagging)
    - what was worse is that most wasn't even gang related, a lot of them were about me, and some very explicit, sexual pictures of me and some students (I never caught who did them)
    - one student sat behind my desk, went through it, stole Aleve, Advil and Vitamin C. This was a huge deal. because although they were small bottles, not even 1/3 full, students could crush them up and snort them to get high.
    - the student also had the chance to go through all my drawers and stole a deck of cards (it was for the students for game time)
    I didn't have anything personal or private, or valuable in my desk
    - barely got through half of the material
    - one student grabbed her butt (I never had a problem with this student, prior to or after this incident)
    - students got on the computers, printed porn images. They printed so many that it jammed up the printer
    - at some point the officers found some pictures in the bathroom, and found out it was from my room. So someone had unplugged all the computers, printers, so when I got back nothing worked (everything had to be plugged into a specific outlet)

    This is what I can remember from 6 months ago. My students never even touched anything on my desk, never wrote things like that about me in books, or other places. It was a nightmare.
    This sub continued to work there for about 4 months or so, even though she could never handle a classroom, the students would always mess with her (get in her purse, eat her lunch, and she would never do anything about it). She worse see through clothing (at a lock up facility for teenage boys). I never noticed, but everyone talked about it, and this was one of the reasons she was banned. (she was about 50 btw).
    She finally let a kid put gang related tagging on her arm with a pen! She gave him permission. Another kid grabbed her arm (in another class) to read it. It stopped there but this could have become something horrible.

    Only after this they banned her, although she was around for a week or so, even after this incident.
     
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    This is so concerning.
     
  17. Kat53

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    Much harder. I was teaching first grade and the spelling words we were learning were part of our phonics targeted sound. The sub picked really hard words. I'm sure there was a logical reason. Maybe they were playing word games but I was annoyed that she erased that part of the white board instead of just using the blank space on the white board.
     
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    Yes, it was. Although up until then, or after the students haven't done anything like that. When I showed it to an officer, the first thing he said: "please understand that this isn't about you". That helped put it into perspective. Since then I have asked many teachers with 10+ years of experience in this environment, and they all said that this wasn't about me, it was them having an outlet to express their frustration. I watched them carefully for tagging, and they never even made a mark on the desks / books. Now, that the sub was there, it was like a kid in the candy store, free to take it all. Why they did that about me? Who knows. I don't even care.
     
  19. John Lee

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    With all that (the horror stories) being said... what do you expect from a job with: poor pay (roughly federal poverty levels), no future, no benefits, and no respect. You generally get what you pay for.
     
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    There are lots of jobs out there that don't pay much. Walk into a McDonalds, Walmart, any retails stores with entry level jobs, even waiting tables, etc. Those people still do the best they can with a smile on their faces. Most people would not excuse a rude employee giving horrible customer service, because 'oh, poor thing, he doesn't make a lot, so it's ok'.
    In my opinion, no one has to work somewhere if they don't want to. No one is forcing these subs to work. They even have the option to accept or decline a job, it's not like they have no choice. They feel that they can't work middle school? Don't accept a job there. Can't work at a certain school due to the student population? Don't go there. And not making enough is never an excuse for poor service. So that doesn't work for me.

    I don't have benefits, but I do feel respected. And as far as future... I have a better future subbing in hopes of landing a teaching job, as opposed to getting a job in another field.
     
  21. John Lee

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    It's not about giving poor service because you don't get paid much. It's about the quality of personnel you attract. You stick those "smiling" McDonald's workers in a classroom, and see how they do. You aren't gonna get the best and brightest when you offer dead-job wages/benefits. Teaching is supposed as a profession that requires a lot of technical ability. But they attract the least able (with the amount they pay). Who's stupid enough to take such a job? I'll tell you who: Those who are unqualified to do anything else.

    The main group of capable people in the "profession" (of sub teaching) are young/naive teachers who don't really know any better; or dummies like myself, who continue to linger and fool themselves into thinking they do something of value and hold out hope of a career in teaching.
     

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