Attn: New Jersey alternate route teachers...

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  1. Leikela

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    Are there any New Jersey alternerate route teachers on this board? If so, do you know the guidelines for obtaining standard certification?

    I know you get the certificate of eligibility, enroll in a state approved program, get a job, and go through the provisional year. What happens if you don't get recommended for standard certification? Can you bring your certificate of eligibility to another school and try again or is it a one shot deal? One chance and you're out??

    Please respond with any information. I scoured the internet and the Dept. of Ed website and found no answers. Thank you for any help!
     
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  3. sadundercover

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    My friend is an AR teacher (well, was) in NJ. She mentioned someone asking about this once in her class. What she HEARD was that you can be carried under the provisional certificate from now-the CE is a moot point. Once you have a provisional, it is good for 2 years. Apparently, it can be renewed as needed. So that would get you into the next school.

    Unfortunately, getting a job as an AR teacher is next to impossible in NJ.:( And you need the job to get into the classes. Maybe having the provisional would be a better thing for your resume!!!!!!!

    I would try to call NJ's DOE and see.
     
  4. Leikela

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    Thanks for the reply. I will look into that. I have already completed all my teaching courses so I'm up for my standard already but my principal will not recommend me. Provisional licenses are applied for through the district itself. I think I need to call the NJDOE and see if I can get anyone on the line.

    As for it being impossible to get a job as an AR teacher in NJ, you're right. Fortunately for me, I have a special education endorsement, so that is in high demand.
     
  5. sadundercover

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    Actually, I don't want to discourage you, but elementary sped is no longer in high demand in NJ. It has become flooded. My friend's school is getting 300-500 resumes for elementary sped jobs and my other friend's school is getting about the same. It is really BAD. I was looking myself and only could get a few interviews. Even the private schools are getting tons. The only classes that seem to have a slightly better chance are autism and profoundly handicapped classes.

    I hope you have better luck. I gave up.:(

    Why won't your principal recommend you? That is really awful.

    You should have gotten a provisional when you started teaching, right? That should help you a lot. I would call and ask to speak with the alternate route people.
     
  6. jenngugs

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    I'm an alternate route teacher in NJ, and I'm almost finished with my program to receive my standard certificate. Don't let people tell you it's impossible to get an AR job in NJ. At least 5 of the last 13 people my district has hired over the past few years have been alternate route candidates. Is it hard? Yes. But impossible? No. What worked for me was to secure a certificate of eligibilty in two different areas if possible (English and ESL). Once I got the ESL certificate, I got two job offers at very good districts.

    PM me with any questions you have and I'll do my best to answer them for you. Good luck!
     
  7. MrsJules

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    I was hoping you can help me out.

    I have a business degree and would like to enter into the Alternate Route program. The websites are very confusing to me. Is there any possible way I can try to obtain a teaching job while in the process of alternate route? Or better yet, can you let me know how it works. Also... if not too personal... I would like to know how the pay scale is for being in the alternate route program.

    I would appreciate any help/advice you can give me. Also what about if I wanted to just teach English/Language Arts?

    Regards!!!

     
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    HIgh demand

    What are the jobs in education that are in high demand? I was recently laid off and finding another job with just a k-5 cert is near impossible.
     
  9. sadundercover

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    NOTHING is in demand here. The best chances are math and science at the middle and high school level, but even they are getting more applicants. Special ed. at the secondary level and maybe middle school has better prospects. That is about it. Believe me, I have done the research. I have friends teaching and most areas are flooded with applicants. Elementary special ed, with the exception of profoundly disabled and autistic classes, is now saturated.


    Mrs.Jules,

    Alternate route here is tough, don't let anyone tell you differently. My friend went through it, and only got a job because her mom taught in the school. AR was created for a shortage and we do not have that here in NJ. Far from it. English is one of the most flooded areas.

    To do AR, you need to have a job. You have to get a CE in the subject (providing you have the right credits and pass the Praxis for that subject). Once you get the CE, you can look for jobs. But, you have to get hired before you can get start the AR classes. It is not going to cost a lot to get the CE and take the test, but do NOT count on getting a job-make sure you know that going in. Do not leave your regular job, unless you can financially sub. and are willing to possibly have to wait a long time. You should definitely have teaching experience on your resume. Definitely consider adding another endorsement and getting a CE in that area. It would not hurt to go for the CE(s), as long as you know what you are up against. To give you an idea, my friend's school just received 500 resumes for one English position. You obviously need to stand out to get noticed or know someone to get you in. My friend told me that without her mom, she would have never gotten a job. Most of the people in her AR class of 20 total, were math and science.
     
  10. Leikela

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    Of course the exception here lies in the urban districts. If you don't mind teaching in Newark, Camden, Trenton, Paterson, Jersey City, Elizabeth and all other poor/Abbott districts then you're a shoe in to be hired. Special education teachers in these types of districts are in severe shortage.

    If you want a cozy job in a rich suburban district, with a CE, you do not have a prayer!!!! Unless you have your cert in Math or Science for Middle or High school. There is a shortage there, but that is about it. Sad but true...
     
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    That's not always true either. I was riffed this year from an ABBOTT district. I'm not SPED, but a friend of mine is. In general, finding and keeping a job in NJ is not easy. Especially now with the end of the abbotts. Less $ = fewer jobs.
     
  12. sadundercover

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    I have to disagree about being a shoe-in in the urban districts. :sorry: I think that is what a lot of people think. I went to a job fair at one of them and there were 1000 people there. I know people involved in the district and it has definitely got the politics. They are also seeing more and more people applying because they cannot find jobs in other areas.

    I am familiar with 3 urban districts and while there are definitely more openings, there is still NOT a severe shortage. There are no elementary openings in 2 of them, that I know; in fact, there have been riffs and budget cuts. Maybe a few special ed. elementary at any given time, but not tons. There is a need for profoundly disabled and autistic teachers. Math and science, too. My friend teaches in one of them and there are really not a whole lot of openings. Most are admin. jobs. They just had more staff cuts.

    But, I totally agree, CE or CEAS, you have to be willing to apply anywhere and everywhere. You cannot limit yourself or you will never have a chance.
     
  13. Leikela

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    You're right about the Abbott districts. I was also non-renewed this year from an Abbott district. This all stemed from the budget cuts that Corzine just made. Still, it remains a fact, that getting a job in an Abbott district is much easier that in a cushy suburb.

    njeledteacher,
    Have you been able to find another job this summer?
     
  14. Leikela

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    Well, we'll agree to disagree but I came through a special ed alt route program in NJ and this program placed over 300 special ed teachers (each year) within the Jersey City, Newark, and Paterson districts for the past 6 years. That's over 1800 special ed teachers.

    Also, this past year one of the district newsletters in the district I taught at had an article on how they are in a severe shortage of Special Ed teachers and what their plan is to remedy that. I'm just speaking from experience, that's all.

    One more thing, I've seen with my own eyes the shortage of special ed teachers. Classes being taught by subs... It's a darned shame. Shortage but no money to fill the positions.
     
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    No, it's depressing. Lots of politics, who you know, etc. I am planning on getting certified in something else, but not sure if i should do SPED, ESL, or something else. I've thought about Speech, but that would require a lot more classes. How about you?
     
  16. Leikela

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    I'm in the same boat. No job prospects. I was registered at Rutgers to take a science course and then I'd have 15 science credits so I could get a science endorsement and teach special ed science to middle schoolers. I ended registering for the wrong class and it messed me all up. Now I have to wait. It really is depressing. It's all about who knows who, etc.

    Since I'm alt. route my bachelor's is in Psychology so I'm applying to DYFS and if I get hired, it's bye bye to teaching. This state has totally disgusted me towards the profession.
     
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    I'm feeling the same way. I have a degree in Bio, but don't want to teach ms or hs science. I know it would be easier to get a job, but it's just not me. All of the labs, disecting, etc. BTW, did you know that if you were laid off, you can get a tuition waiver for additional classes you take? In addition to collecting unemployment...
     
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    :hijack: What the heck is an Abbott district?? Does it have to do with Abbott industries? Just very curious - thanks
     
  19. ROMA

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    HI I have a BA degree in ENGLISH LITERATURE i have 120 credits and 3.55 gpa what shud i do to get thro the alternate route .looks like you have had sucess how did u prepare for praxis

    thank you
     
  20. IStand4

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    Much appreciated

    Hello, jenngugs
    I have a certif. of elig. in Elementary Ed. K-5.
    I recently applied for a graphic design C. of E.
    I begin a Phase 1a alt. route class in July.
    I have no teaching job or offer. I am unemployed.
    When you say "two different areas", does the graphic design CofE help? or does not apply?
    For various reasons (current school budget crisis, hiring freeze, competition) I am inclined to take out a student loan and begin courses at a college toward certification as a teacher of ESL.
    Any thoughts on this?
     
  21. maestra121

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    Hello IStand4,

    I too hold an alternate route CE in (k-5) and although I was offered other jobs in teaching in HS, due to my CE I wasnt able to accept. I was told to enter and complete the alt. courses I needed to be hired in these grades only or as a permanent sub. This sux cuz is hard to find a job in teaching nowdays, I might go for my MA in ESL instead. Best of luck
     

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