Are things this tough all over?

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  1. queenie

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    So here's what we are dealing with:

    We can't get enough subs so classroom teachers are being pulled to sub for other teachers and specialists.

    Our classroom doors must be locked at all times so instruction is interrupted every time someone comes back from the restroom or knocks on our door.

    We have to make up extensive lesson plans for every assembly (including fund raisers) and field trip we take- even if it's a county mandated trip. These plans must include a unit leading up to the event, behavior standards, listening and presenting standards, and a follow up. Example: this week alone we have to provide lesson plans for a field trip to see A play, an assembly from a local organization about recycling, and a Constitution Day parade & program. Plus there are "surprise" topics we have to plan for as well- one upcoming week it will be college awareness and bus safety. In the same week.

    We must assess children in Reading and Math every three to six weeks. A computer test that takes 45 mins to an hour. Even students who are well above level. We must meet with our grade level partner every week to discuss the results of these assessments and prepare and share a detailed agenda for each meeting. Even though we meet about the same things every other week with our principal.

    Our kids eat breakfast in the classroom on their desks. While instruction continues (yeah right).

    Our recess duty is one teacher for two classes. Alone. We have recess or lunch duty every day and an additional duty every other week either before or after school.

    We are observed SO much! Even for a "walk through" our P sits down and takes photos on his iPad. He observes everyone at least 2 times more than is required.

    Our lesson plans have to include everything! It is impossible to get planning done during a work day. I am at school an extra hour and a half daily and still have to do planning several hours a week at home :(

    We are testing on the old standards even though we are teaching Common Core and then being evaluated on the scores!

    We are expected to take on everything new coming down the pike: a new email program, a new teacher evaluation system, new assessments, new standards, energy conservation programs, mandatory 30 mins movement at recess even when inside a classroom with two classes present and one teacher, new safety protocols... Ugh!

    Is it just me or is anyone else feeling like they are having the joy of teaching sucked out of them?!
     
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  3. 2ndTimeAround

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    I don't have it nearly as bad as you, but I have to admit, it was hard going back to school this year.
     
  4. Go Blue!

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    Yes, teaching is rough in many places.

    OP, I did not see you mention anything about student behavior issues - nothing about dealing with disrespect, defiance, oppositional behavior, etc. Personally, if I didn't have to deal with student behavior problems, I wouldn't mind all the other stuff we have to put up with/do/deal with. Constant behavior issues, a culture where this behavior is seen as the "norm," and a lack of effective consequences for dealing with behavior problems is what sucks the joy out of teaching for me.

    Hopefully, things will improve for you OP.:)
     
  5. readingrules12

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    If you add the things you described, I can see why you are stressed. Some are true for the school I am at, and some are not.

    Yes, we are suppose to lock our doors at all times, but oops I guess I must have left it open a crack. P is too busy to get on us about this. I always have one door locked and then have the other door cracked open a bit, so do many teachers at our school.

    I actually have had breakfast in the classroom working for me after some practice. How to do this depends on your grade. K and 1st grade are very tough. 2nd and 3rd grade work very well if you can begin with work on their desk at independent level. 4th and 5th you need to really get their attention and start out with something they like to do. Must get them to work for a minute or two before you shift to doing your attendance.

    Being observed a lot isn't always a bad thing. It allows you to have a bad day and it is not as big of a deal. It actually helps me to relax a bit more.

    No P can keep up with all of that much micro-managing. Just wait and I bet several of these will decrease by the end of the year. Hang in there.
     
  6. Peregrin5

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    I think this mostly happens only in some schools. If the environment for the school is bad, (i.e. bad behavior is seen as the norm, etc.) behavior declines overall.

    Also Queenie, that sounds ridiculous. We have the first two things: teachers subbing for other teachers, and classrooms need to be locked at all times, but the rest, yeesh.
     
  7. otterpop

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    Yes, we have all of that. Plus meetings like crazy (one every morning)!

    Good grief.
     
  8. kellzy

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    We have a lot of that, but lesson plans for assemblies? Are you serious? I thought I had it bad, but that's a joke. I barely remember when those are, half the time...
     
  9. Jem

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    Holy crap.

    Huge hugs.

    I had an evaluation from my principal today, and all she wanted was a bullet-ed list of the thoughts we were going to cover. I paper clipped copies of all my handouts and she said it was going above and beyond.

    I am so sorry you are going through that. That's ridiculous.
     
  10. ielts_1992

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    not really sure what ur on about my school doesnt care just print stuff off the internet and give it out,tell them to selfcorrect for homework then watch youtube videos in class dunno why people say its hard being a teacher i guess they take it too seriusly thats why they get stress guys chill out and start enjoying life,life is's short so enjoy life why u ask about this
     
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    A lot of this was true for my old school. One thought: stop doing field trips and assemblies since they cause you to have extra work. Our admins made us fill out hundreds of pages for these events and gave us no support for them, so we just stopped doing them. Kids at my school only got one field trip a year then and maybe one assembly a year. Also, I honestly believe assemblies are a complete waste of time in an educational setting. Kids see it as a party instead of class.
     
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    I have several of these things going on, and others you don't mention. It seems like it gets a little tougher each year. I also seem to have more students and less planning time each year. It's wearing on me. This is my 10th year, so I am at least vested in the retirement system. Knowing that I have to option to find other work without losing what I've put into the system makes it my choice to be here, and I feel a little better about it.
     
  13. Reality Check

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    Yes.........with the obvious exception of recess duty at the high school level, we have to do what's being demanded of you.

    And because substitutes are afraid of the violence level at our school, we get almost no one. So you can pretty much expect to lose your planning period on a regular basis.


    :(
     
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    Yes. At my school we do many of those things. We don't do a few of them, but we do other things instead; it all evens out I suppose.

    This year they took away my planning period so that I could have an additional section of students. It was their way of solving the problem of severe overcrowding in my classes (i.e., 50+ students in each section, in a classroom with room for 36 desks). So now instead of teaching 5 sections like every other teacher on campus, I get to teach 6. And I get no break from students during the day, so no bathroom breaks or trips to the mailroom or anything. Awesome. (At least they're paying me a hefty rate for taking on that extra section.)
     
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    We can't get enough subs so classroom teachers are being pulled to sub for other teachers and specialists. Not a problem here. Subs are sometimes hard to find, but we always have them.

    Our classroom doors must be locked at all times so instruction is interrupted every time someone comes back from the restroom or knocks on our door. We don't have to keep our doors locked. We're encouraged to keep them closed in the winter for heating purposes, but I usually keep mine open.

    We have to make up extensive lesson plans for every assembly (including fund raisers) and field trip we take- even if it's a county mandated trip. These plans must include a unit leading up to the event, behavior standards, listening and presenting standards, and a follow up. Example: this week alone we have to provide lesson plans for a field trip to see A play, an assembly from a local organization about recycling, and a Constitution Day parade & program. Plus there are "surprise" topics we have to plan for as well- one upcoming week it will be college awareness and bus safety. In the same week. Yikes, never had to do that!

    We must assess children in Reading and Math every three to six weeks. A computer test that takes 45 mins to an hour. Even students who are well above level. We must meet with our grade level partner every week to discuss the results of these assessments and prepare and share a detailed agenda for each meeting. Even though we meet about the same things every other week with our principal. We have to do a lot of assessments and we discuss the results in our weekly PLC meetings. We have to assess Tier 2 and 3 kids every 4 weeks, but other kids are assessed as-needed.

    Our kids eat breakfast in the classroom on their desks. While instruction continues (yeah right). Breakfast is in the cafeteria.

    Our recess duty is one teacher for two classes. Alone. We have recess or lunch duty every day and an additional duty every other week either before or after school.
    No recess duty. We have supervisors.

    We are observed SO much! Even for a "walk through" our P sits down and takes photos on his iPad. He observes everyone at least 2 times more than is required. We are observed about 2 times per year.

    Our lesson plans have to include everything! It is impossible to get planning done during a work day. I am at school an extra hour and a half daily and still have to do planning several hours a week at home :( Yes, I spend tons of time planning-nights, weekends...A lot.

    We are testing on the old standards even though we are teaching Common Core and then being evaluated on the scores! Nope, all CCSS fr us.

    We are expected to take on everything new coming down the pike: a new email program, a new teacher evaluation system, new assessments, new standards, energy conservation programs, mandatory 30 mins movement at recess even when inside a classroom with two classes present and one teacher, new safety protocols... Ugh! Yes, there are so many new things, and we're all overwhelmed trying to fit it all in.

    Is it just me or is anyone else feeling like they are having the joy of teaching sucked out of them?! Yes, I feel very stressed and often overwhelmed. I don't know if I'll make it another 25 years in this field. It's so sad, because I want to love teaching, but it's such a stressful, overworked and underpaid job.
     
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    I will just say, that even though being a substitute while going to college is recommended for teachers around here, that if I was a substitute teacher, even if I worked every day of the week I'd be making less money than I do now working as a desk clerk at a hotel.
     
  17. Go Blue!

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    My Admin also claims that they can never find subs, but I am 100% sure that they just don't want to pay them. There are plenty of subs in this district; they just want free labor.
     
  18. waterfall

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    We were just talking today about how we thought we were so stressed last year- now we are dying to go back to what it was like last year! It feels like practically everything we do has changed or we have to implement something new with no time/support/resources.
     
  19. Reality Check

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    Funny you should mention that!
    I've thought that from time-to-time myself that the district is just trying to save money by making that claim. Some of my colleagues have replied, "Oh no! They would get in SO MUCH trouble if the union ever discovered something like that was going on." You can't talk to people like that......they're also under the delusion that a school district operates on the most noble level in every circumstance.


    :lol:
     
  20. teacherintexas

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    Yep. Pretty much.

    There's a few things on your list that we don't have but your list doesn't have a few of ours so it's pretty much the same.
     
  21. live

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    That was how things were at my old school. It was hard to keep up with all the extras...and actually teach! My current school is completely different. The teachers get to weigh in on a lot of those decisions, so it's conducive to actually doing what we got a degree to do.
     

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