Approval of Public Schools at an All Time High

Discussion in 'General Education' started by Tyler B., Sep 5, 2017.

  1. Peregrin5

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    You can't "Yeah That" your own post. That's just self-aggrandizing.
     
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    You said you are ok with a few tests, how many standardized tests are your students taking?
     
  3. AlwaysAttend

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    If it reaches a point where you aren't allowed to have basic conversations between consenting adults, I say shut the forum down and stick to the printables AtoZ.
     
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    By way of votes!
     
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    Personally I think computer-adaptive testing could take care of a lot of this. For those who aren't aware, computer-adaptive testing is done on a computer and gives different questions depending on what the tester gets correct.

    For example, after the first two questions one could get both right, both wrong, or one right and one wrong. If one gets them both right, the computer gives a more difficult question. Both wrong, a less difficult one. One right and one wrong, a question of similar difficulty. Each question then proceeds off the history of previous questions.

    The GMAT is done this way, and what was previously a 3-hour test gets done in a half-hour (sometimes less).

    Incidentally -- speaking purely legally -- it should be noted that originally the bill of rights did not apply to the states, and only was deemed to apply after the 14th amendment's equal protection clause. This means that at the founding an individual state could establish an official religion. This obviously isn't our understanding today, and a reevaluation of this would require us to also reevaluate other first amendment freedoms such as free speech and press.
     
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    I figured that I would be the only one that felt that way, so I had to support myself.
     
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    There's no explicit rule against it, of course, but I agree that it's odd, though I'd say less self-aggrandizing than needy.
     
  10. AlwaysAttend

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    Seeing as it hasn't been shut down it must be OK. Not to mention the absurdity of discussing anything education related without considering the political issues related to it.

    I would expect the political debate to be limited to education though.
     
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    :toofunny:
     
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    Here's some more points from that poll that don't fit the OP's narrative quite as nicely:

    • If cost and location were not issues, just one-third of parents say they’d pick a traditional public school over a private school (31%), public charter school (17%), or a religious school (14%).
    • Just 21% agree that vouchers erode the quality of public schools. Opposition to vouchers seems based on views about the appropriate use of public funds.
    http://pdkpoll.org/results/using-public-money-to-support-private-schools
     
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    My understanding of how political discussions are moderated is discussion of ISSUES is more than okay, provided it remains civil and doesn't delve into a red / blue / green issue. In other words, let's talk about what moves the world and the classroom, but keep it non-partisan.
     
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    That's how I roll.
     
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    By and large, the American public is is led by the nose like some dumb animal at the hands of legislators, lobbyists, and a media enslaved by advertising dollars from legislators and lobbyists. Frankly, the American public doesn't know what the hell to think, though this never stops them from trying—badly. The American public likes to be manipulated. The American public has been conditioned to favor an existence defined by subservient lechery and self destruction.

    Atop the perpetual social manipulation, tax dollars we think are being used for the services needed to maintain a just and verdant society are stolen by legislators and their corporate backers. Yet no one seems to notice or thinks to raise an alarm. The American public has been manipulated to a point that they can no longer perceive long-term threats, cannot react properly to even short-term threats, and values media titillation beyond self-preservation.

    The loss of quality public education is paving our way to a national state of wage slavery never seen before—even beyond that America experienced prior to the rise of industrialization.

    The forces working to reduce America to a third-world source of cheap labor supporting the growth of foreign economies are emboldened, relentless, and widespread—but largely subversive. They are everywhere.

    Actual teachers and members of the thinking minority have a duty to find and highlight the actions and manipulations of those who favor a powerless, enthralled America.

    I am alarmed by the frequency at which views challenging anti-labor and anti-education rhetoric are being classified as partisan threats that need to be shut down.
     
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    I know the button doesn't always get a response. If you want me to set up a PM for you and another member, I can set it up. I will try PMing you.
     
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    Did you run out of tin foil this morning or did you have enough to cover all the windows?
     
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    As an actual teacher, I have many duties, but I don't think that's one of them.
     
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  19. Tyler B.

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    I think that teachers have a duty to remain politically active and counter the anti-teacher, anti-public education voices.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. I have a personal interest in doing so... I enjoy taking up educational policy as a hobby. I like to read about policy and research, and I like to engage in conversations about it. However, I disagree that all teachers have a duty to do this. For one thing, not all teachers share the same opinions about what is considered "anti-teacher" and "anti-public education".

    I believe all teachers have a duty to maintain their credentials and be committed to providing a high-quality education to their students. Anything beyond that is going above and beyond and is a matter of personal interest and individual values.
     

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