Anyone else feel undervalued?

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  1. Caesar753

    Caesar753 Multitudinous

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    Teachers in our district just found out that we will be taking a pay cut effective immediately. The amount of the cut varies for everyone, ranging from basically nothing to more than $500 per check. If I've calculated correctly, I'll be down around $200 per check (around $400 per month).

    The superintendent sent out a big email to everyone basically saying that we should be happy that he isn't requiring us to pay back what we've already been paid so far this year.

    Although I usually love my chosen profession in general and my job specifically, stuff like this makes me very unhappy.

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    What?!?! What is the reason for the pay cut?
     
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    What!?:eek:
     
  5. Caesar753

    Caesar753 Multitudinous

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    Our district and union have been in arbitration for some time, and the arbitrator ruled in the district's favor yesterday. The district claims that it needs to reduce our pay so that it can fill 1,000 positions and reduce class sizes. I think it's a load of baloney, that they won't actually fill those positions, and that our class sizes will end up increasing.
     
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    Given what I know of where you are, Caesar, I wouldn't, um, bet against your assessment. I know that Post proelium, praemium can be translated 'After the battle, the spoils' - but in this case 'spoils' clearly needs to be translated back into Latin much less positively.

    Hugs and hugs.
     
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    wrong on so many levels....
     
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    That's terrible. There's so many teachers who are single and depend only on their salary...and some working two jobs just to stay afloat. That's pitiful, and I'm so sorry.

    And effective immediately?!? WHAT?? I hope you at least had some warning.
     
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    The cuts will appear on our next paycheck. That's all the warning we received.
     
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    :hugs: Caesar.
    That really stinks.
     
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    That does stink. Teachers here make squat. No raises for years at a time. One of the reasons, I think, for high turn over.

    I don't know how teachers that are single and depend on one income can live on such low wages.

    I know there are areas of the country where teachers do well. But I think more don't.

    Sorry, about your cut in pay. Teachers are undervalued!
     
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    Wow.

    This could really, truly hurt families!!!
     
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    Not surprised....
     
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    Wow, that's a huge cut. Unbelievable.
     
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    That cut would cost me my house. Migod...
     
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    Caesar,

    That is really strange and awful. I'm really sorry to hear about your pay cut. I thought if you have a contract for a certain amount then the district has to pay that amount over the agreed upon number of pays. Example: $50,000 over 24 pays.

    I am confused. How is the union and Superintendent explaining that they can legally not honor the contract?
     
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    Wow, that is awful. The pay freezes that happened a few years ago is one of the big reasons why I started the process to get out of education. I want to make more money over the next 25 years so that I can retire with out a worry.
    It is just not worth it.
     
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    Isn't there a contract in effect for this year?
     
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    Generally I would agree with you bob (i.e. places like where Caesar works). But in many other areas, teachers have it quite well... and I actually don't see things getting too bad for those people. As I've said, teaching is all about the Have's and the Havenots. They key being, that if you are one of the Have's, you have it made in the shade.
     
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    There is a contract in effect, but the district went to arbitration because they were unhappy with parts of it (i.e., the parts where they have to pay us for our work). I can't believe that an arbitrator sided with the district. It seems wrong on all levels--ethically, morally, and certainly legally! But evidently it's all on the up and up.

    :(
     
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    Caesar~this is just wrong on all kinds of levels...I'm with you in shock that an arbitrator sided with the district. Maybe the district is using the pay cut money to pay them off.
     
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